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All Ireland Senior Hurling Championships Lower Tier 2022 (JM,CR,NR, LM Cups)

  • 01-04-2022 12:44am
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    Registered Users Posts: 34,887 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Joe McDonagh Cup (Antrim,Carlow,Down,Kerry,Meath,Offaly)

    The Joe McDonagh Cup shall have Six Teams in its Championship and shall be played on a Round-Robin basis. 

    The counties who finish in the top two places shall qualify for the final. Both teams qualify for the All Ireland Preliminary Round (3rd Munster Round Robin vs Joe Mcdonagh Cup Winners, 3rd Leinster Round Robin vs Joe Mcdonagh cup Runners Up)

    The winner of the final if a non-Munster team, shall be promoted to the Leinster Championship for 2023. If Kerry wins the Joe McDonagh Cup, it shall playoff against the bottom team in the Munster Championship “Round Robin” at a neutral Munster Venue The Winner of that playoff game shall be relegated to the Joe McDonagh Cup for 2023. In that circumstance, the bottom team in the Leinster Championship “Round Robin” shall not be Relegated.

    The bottom-placed team in the “Round-Robin” shall be relegated to the Christy Ring Cup for 2023

    Round 1 (16th April)

    Meath v Carlow

    Kerry v Down

    Antrim v Offaly

    Round 2 (23rd/24th April)

    Carlow v Kerry

    Offaly v Meath

    Down vs Antrim

    Round 3 (30th April/1st May)

    Kerry vs Meath

    Antrim vs Carlow

    Down vs Offaly

    Round 4 (14th May)

    Meath v Antrim

    Carlow v Down

    Kerry v Offaly

    Round 5 (21st May)

    Antrim v Kerry

    Offaly v Carlow

    Down v Meath

    Final- Sat 4th June

    Christy Ring Cup 2022 (Derry,Kildare,London,Mayo,Wicklow,Sligo)

    The Christy Ring Cup shall have Six Teams in its Championship and shall be played on a Round-Robin basis. 

    The counties who finish in the top two places shall qualify for the final, The winner will be promoted to the Joe McDonagh Cup for 2023 

    The bottom-placed team in the “Round-Robin” shall be relegated to the Nicky Rackard Cup for 2023

    Round 1 (9th/10th April)

    Derry v Wicklow

    Mayo v Kildare

    London v Sligo

    Round 2 (16th April)

    Kildare v London

    Wicklow v Mayo

    Sligo v Derry

    Round 3 (23rd April)

    London v Mayo

    Sligo v Wicklow

    Kildare v Derry

    Round 4 (7th May)

    Derry v London

    Wicklow v Kildare

    Mayo v Sligo

    Round 5 (14th May)

    Kildare v Sligo

    Mayo v Derry

    London v Wicklow

    Final- 21st/22nd May (Croke Park)

    Nicky Rackard Cup 2022 (Armagh,Donegal,Fermanagh,Roscommon,Tyrone,Warwickshire)

    The Nicky Rackard Cup shall have Six Teams in its Championship and shall be played on a Round-Robin basis. 

    The counties who finish in the top two places shall qualify for the final, The winner will be promoted to the Christy Ring Cup for 2023 

    The bottom-placed team in the “Round-Robin” shall be relegated to the Lory Meagher Cup for 2023

    Round 1 (9th/10th April)

    Fermanagh v Donegal

    Armagh v Roscommon

    Warwickshire v Tyrone

    Round 2 (16th/17th April)

    Roscommon v Warwickshire

    Donegal v Armagh

    Tyrone v Fermanagh

    Round 3 (23rd/24th April)

    Donegal v Roscommon

    Tyrone v Armagh

    Fermanagh v Warwickshire

    Round 4 (7th May)

    Roscommon v Tyrone

    Warwickshire v Donegal

    Armagh v Fermanagh

    Round 5 (14th May)

    Fermanagh v Roscommon

    Tyrone v Donegal

    Warwickshire v Armagh

    Final- 21st/22nd May (Croke Park)

    Lory Meagher Cup 2022 (Cavan,Monaghan,Lancashire,Leitrim,Longford,Louth)

    The Lory Meagher Cup shall have Six Teams in its Championship and shall be played on a Round-Robin basis.

    The counties who finish in the top two places shall qualify for the final. The winner of the final shall be promoted to the Nickey Rackard Cup for 2023

    Round 1 (9th/10th April)

    Lancashire v Louth

    Monaghan v Cavan

    Leitrim v Longford

    Round 2 (16th/17th April)

    Cavan v Leitrim,

    Louth v Monaghan

    Longford v Lancashire

    Round 3 (23rd/24th April)

    Longford v Louth

    Leitrim vs Monaghan

    Cavan v Lancashire

    Round 4 (7th May)

    Lancashire v Leitrim

    Louth v Cavan

    Monaghan v Longford

    Round 5 (14th May)

    Cavan v Longford

    Monaghan v Lancashire

    Leitrim v Louth

    Final- 21st/22nd May (Croke Park)

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Comments

  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭ legendary.xix


    Kerry, after two final appearances, might miss out this year. Division 1 hurling will stand to Antrim and Offaly, while Down are on an upward trajectory.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,887 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    London are the first team to win in the 2022 championship

    Beat Sligo 0-26-0-21 in Round 1 of the Christy Ring Cup



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭ legendary.xix


    Kildare and Derry are the teams to beat.

    Should the McDonagh Cup be classified as a lower Tier championship when the winners have a route to McCarthy glory? Possibly being a Tier 1B is more accurate?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,393 ✭✭✭✭ callaway92


    No harm in that - would probably need a rebranding to an extent then though as most people associate the Joe McDonagh as a ‘rest of the pack’ competition and bunch it with the Ring, Rackard and Meagher really



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭ legendary.xix


    We have the Munster Championship and the Leinster Championship. The National Championship (McDonagh Cup)?

    Other lower tier options;

    Premier Conference (Ring)

    Conference 1 (Rackard)

    Conference 2 (Meagher)

    These names or something like these are reflective of the respective levels.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan


    Jaysus kerry beaten in Tralee by Down, that's a bit of a shocker!


    IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN: "In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom"

    Irish Proclamation



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,887 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Yeah massive result for Down, successfully thorough there first big challenge of the championship

    Kerry under pressure now esp having big challenges ahead against Antrim, Offaly and Carlow



  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭ supernova5


    yea that is a savage result for Down, proving to be a resilient and consistent team



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan


    Massive win also for Antrim against offaly with a last minute goal from conor Johnson to win by a point.


    IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN: "In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom"

    Irish Proclamation



  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭ supernova5


    its either Antrim have regressed or Offaly have improved since their last meeting 3 weeks ago,



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  • Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ conor05


    Molumphy doesn’t seem to be able to get the Kerry lads up to the same level as other managers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭ legendary.xix


    Down had a good league. Only fine margins kept them out of the final last year. Down v Antrim will be a good gauge of where both of those counties are at.

    Shane Nolan retiring after being dropped wasn't the best build up for a Kerry team who were placed on the backfoot by Down from throw in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan


    Retired after being dropped for the game really? Bit OTT.


    IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN: "In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom"

    Irish Proclamation



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭ legendary.xix


    There are conflicting reports. The manager said he retired after being dropped. Shane has come out and said he has retired for family and business reasons.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,887 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    The GAA really need to move Kerry to a Minor B competition or something. 3 hammerings for them in the Munster Championship this year



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,267 ✭✭✭✭ breezy1985


    And in a few years time everyone will say they need to be playing the big teams to progress and then they will get hammered and everyone will say the GAA really need to move Kerry to a Minor B and after a few years time everyone will say they need to be playing the big teams to progress and then they will get hammered and everyone will say the GAA really need to move Kerry to a Minor B



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭ legendary.xix


    Leinster Tier 3 would suit Kerry. I think they should keep taking their lessons from the Munster minor championship and stick with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan


    Nice comeback from Antrim, carlow looked to have them in bother early on, great spirit in the team. Seem to be a cut above the rest so far.


    IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN: "In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom"

    Irish Proclamation



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,887 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Yeah and they look like they could win it out. 3rd team in Munster will have to travel up there for the All Ireland Preliminary Round if thats the case

    Looking like Antrim have made the final and the battle for 2nd place will be very interesting

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  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭ Bumpsy


    Antrim looking the best of them so far, I thought Kerry were out of it after their home loss but another huge win today so maybe not....



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,887 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Kerry vs Offaly on the 14th May could be a huge match in the battle for 2nd place. Antrim host Kerry in the last round and possibly line out with a B team

    Down also very much still in it



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan


    Meath gone backwards, hopefully Kildare will be more competitive when they come up.


    IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN: "In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom"

    Irish Proclamation



  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭ supernova5


    Antrim not 100% sure of final place just yet, I fancy Kerry get to the final



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Hammer Archer


    Dunno what the story behind it but a huge number of our best players aren't making themselves available this season. And two McGowans from Ratoath are on the football panel and would likely be starters for the hurlers. We'd likely struggle to even make the final of the Christy Ring the way we've been this year so far. The only reason we beat Kildare in the league was because Kildare were without their Naas players.

    It's a shame that we've utterly failed to build on our initial Christy Ring success in 2016. We gave a half decent account of ourselves the following year but have gradually slipped back year on year while seeing the likes of Kildare and Down overtake us. Since the 2016 Christy Ring success, we've beaten Kerry in 2017 and 2021. While we've had narrow losses against the likes of Westmeath, Carlow, Offaly etc., we've had no other wins against stronger sides in either league or championship. The wins we've gotten have been against sides you'd expect us to be beating with ease (e.g. London, Mayo, Wicklow etc.). It's a very frustrating state of affairs.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,887 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Were very thankful down in Waterford for Jack Fagan



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭ legendary.xix


    Antrim are the favourites in this tournament. Offaly, after a season in Division 1, will be favourites against Kerry. Kerry v Offaly will be a semi-final of sorts but Down are currently in the mix also.

    Antrim first 3 league results:

    Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 3

    At Corrigan Park

    Waterford 3-21

    Antrim 2-22

    Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 2

    At Corrigan Park

    Dublin 2-19

    Antrim 2-15

    Allianz Hurling League Division 1 Group B round 1

    At UPMC Nowlan Park

    Kilkenny 2-15

    Antrim 3-9



  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭ supernova5


    yea Antrim impressive in league for sure but wont count for a whole lot in latter stages of Joe Mac in one-off games



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan


    Antrim alot stronger at home, have been caught out on the road probably due to the distance involved.


    IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN: "In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom"

    Irish Proclamation



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭ legendary.xix


    Westmeath's Division 1 experience was very evident in last year's McDonagh final.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 34,887 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Effectively the end of the road for some teams today in the CR, NR and LM

    Crazy the way the calender is gone

    Some dose for the Mongahan Hurlers




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