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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Russia has claimed to have shot down a ukrainain transport aircraft heading into Odessa ,and in another report they claimed it was a Nato aircraft delivering weapons




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Bombing Apartment blocks???? Sure that would have Putins signature all over it...isn't that how he came to power????😅😅😅



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,533 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Will henceforth be known as "Vlad the Unlucky" until Vlad the Invader takes on that moniker



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The hellfire missle which has been the primary weapon of the Americans drone can hit take out armour at close to 10km away ,that's a decent standoff range , considering they are currently hitting targets when they are over head with the baktar drones.

    And the Globalhawks have being directly over ukraine and Mariupol through the last 50 + days , they are regularly tracked on here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,879 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Russia really pushing the NATO angle - reads to me this is gonna take a nasty turn



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Shooting down a Nato aircraft would be considered an act of war ,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭ronivek


    I just don't see how or why they would be sending a transport plane to Odessa of all places. In fact I'd be amazed if transport planes are operating in Ukraine at all since the war began; they're sitting ducks.

    The Russian MoDs briefings are utter horseshit anyway:

    Missile troops hit 317 military facilities, including: 274 strong points and areas of concentration of enemy manpower, 24 control points and two field fuel storage facilities of Ukrainian troops.

    The other day they claimed 800+ military facilities were hit. I mean; do Ukraine even have 800 "military facilities" in the entire country? Or is "military facility" codename for a civilian dwelling? That would make more sense...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,312 ✭✭✭jackboy


    What can they do though? They know now they don’t have a modern army. It’s going to take them decades to build an army.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,181 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Putin won't back off this means that the West can prepare for escalation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,936 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Would Ukraine really fly any weapons in by plane? It sounds rather unlikely.....surely everything would be done by rail or on road.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,505 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The quote I read was that they have a "large modern army" but the part that is modern (e.g. cruise missiles) is not large and the part that is large is not modern.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Perhaps another reason to officially declare war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Yeah but the TB2s are a good bit smaller than the Predator and significantly smaller than the Reaper. Also in case you hadn't noticed they can't use the TB2s offensively anymore since Russia have tightened up their air defences and collapsed to the south and east of the country.

    The only TB2 footage we have seen lately is of them being used in a surveillance role from significant distance: you only do that if you can't get close enough to fire your short-range missiles.

    And no the Global Hawks have not been flying over Ukraine or Mariupol; they have been conducting surveillance flights from significant distances outside of Ukrainian airspace along with all the other NATO air assets as shown below:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭liamtech


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    I shouldnt have laughed, considering the cost of human lives - but Russia has brought this on themselves

    Slava Ukraini

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭sjb25


    I would doubt nato aircraft would be landing directly into ukraine if it was and it was shot down things would kick off id say it was ukrainian



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    A year ago I began wondering: what happens in Syrian media when Mick Wallace and Clare Daly speak in support of viewpoints held by the Assad regime?

    I set up an alert for their names when used in Arabic, Russian and Chinese.

    Follow me down the rabbit hole:

    How Russian war apologists Clare Daly and Mick Wallace have become the two most followed Irish people on Chinese social media (Conor McGregor was no. 3 for the record).

    An absolute must read for any Irish person.

    https://t.co/IEhxaIWoxS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The main damage might not be the physical / military effect it will have ( and I'm pretty sure that it will have a negative effect there too) but the demoralizing psychological / prestige damage will be massive. And will not do anything to quell the rumblings of discontent, because despite the silence in that department, you can be sure that there are rumblings of discontent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Is this better?

    1. Civil War in Georgia or South Ossetian War (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    2. War in Abkhazia (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    3. Armed conflict in Transnistria (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    4. Civil war in Tajikistan (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    5. First Chechen war (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    6. Second Chechen war (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    7. Armed conflict in South Ossetia (Samachablo) and Russian-Georgian war (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    8. Annexation of Crimea (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    9. War in Donbas (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    10. Russian military operation in Syria (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)

    11. Russia's full-scale war against Ukraine (+ war against the independent press, opposition politicians, democracy, and all forms of protest and dissent, and of course, the truth)



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,533 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    NATO could become an excuse for Putin to back off. He could then claim he's acting the hero by not rising to the bait and triggering WW3

    However none of us can have much idea as to what his thinking is, and he may equally feel as if he's going to get taken out one way or other so to hell with the rest of the world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    I guess it wasn't just the US who got those post it notes yesterday:-




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,505 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The US should demand an end to arms supplies to Ukraine i.e. to Russian troops in Ukraine !

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Only Russia could spin a loss into a glorious win.

    NATO poked and proded us, but, we were the bigger nation, we are the heros who saved the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭shillyshilly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    The Pope's Way of the Cross prosession yesterday has not gone down too well in Ukraine:-




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Does anyone here know the capability of the various classes of tactical nuclear weapons? Think I read before that they dont have (or some dont anyway) a warhead that leaves radioactive fallout in the atmosphere so they are nowhere as near destructive as full nuclear weapons where the surviving population later dies from cancer from the radioactivity. But that they can obliterate everything in a specific space, as small as 1km2 for the smallest of warheads. They seem like the type of weapon that can take out a specific facility or location without causing as much death as a full scale nuclear weapon.

    Id wonder would Putin use them, either as a way of finishing off the Azov resistance in the aluminium plant in Mariupol or hitting Kiev in an effort to kill Zelenskyy and the Ukrainian leadership. Like he allowed chemical weapons to be used in Syria and that wasnt a red line, could he do similar with a small tactical nuke without any US or NATO reaction? If it only kills a limited amount of people in a small area would there even be a response? That seems to be the way he got away with using chemical weapons in Syria, the deaths from them werent all that high. It might have been a different story has they been used to poison the residents of a whole city with mass scale casualties in the tens of thousands. There seems to be degrees with these things in how far he is allowed to go before intervention happens.



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The long range missile is suppose to be be for high value targets,like AWACS and fuel tankers not fighter,missiles or faster bombers,but it needs AWACS support or use of over the horizon radar to be able to get a good radar lock at that range,and also data link to send midcourse updates back to the S400.

    Russia havent showed they master this capability yet

    Also the range of radar also depends on landscape and geographical location,hills,mountains,masts,trees anything that will prevent the radar signal to bounce of a target.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭maebee


    A brilliant powerful video

    Carl Bildt (@carlbildt) Tweeted:

    If they were to watch this in the Kremlin 🇷🇺 they might start to understand what they are up against 🇺🇦. https://t.co/ev4U20IzAG https://twitter.com/carlbildt/status/1515294443175387139?s=20&t=xy7d689HH4CanNqTk_kdqg



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    @ronivek And no the Global Hawks have not been flying over Ukraine or Mariupol; they have been conducting surveillance flights from significant distances outside of Ukrainian airspace along with all the other NATO air assets as shown below:

    Yes they absolutely Have ,

    I've and others have Shared flight radar tracking showing global hawks over ukraine and Mariupol

    This is just one example

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