Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

"Socalise safely"

Would they ever drop this patronising nonsense

The same most definitely wouldnt have happened in 20 and 21 and to suggest it would have shows a blatent disregard for science, logic and critical thinking.

Many more people would have died without interventions in 20 and 21.

The virus was different back then. This current strain causes less sickness in people. That coupled with a better immunity towards it make it less of an issue for us. Not the case before.

At the peak in Jan 2021 we had hospitals at capacity, many deaths. You reckon no lockdown at at time would have meant dropping hospitalisations?

Get a grip.

Sweden? This Sweden?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/scathing-evaluation-swedens-covid-response-reveals-failures-control/story%3fid=83644832

The UK report all deaths within 30 days of a positive covid test, as opposed to deaths caused or probably caused by covid.

It means that the UK death figures have been functionally meaningless since late December because millions have a positive covid test in the last 30 days.

Very surprised, it dropped by 20 overnight, which is rare. I'd say a load of test results came in overnight that were clear, so people got removed from the covid list.

There'll be a decent drop again tonight, hospitals will discharge as many people as possible to get them home for Easter.

We can stop looking now tbh, hospital numbers don't matter any more.

Jac's musings on Sweden and restrictions has all been debunked before, it is of course total nonsense but some people can't handle being consistently wrong for 2 years.

But does it not merit a closer look at Sweden’s policies. Their drops in cases after waves in early pandemic times were not due to restrictions - so what was happening there? They did implement restrictions when there was a possibility of healthcare overload, but aside from those periods, restrictions were benign.

All counties experienced waves regardless of level of restrictions. Those waves passed without exception, regardless of restrictions. Some countries with poor healthcare capacities opted for more stringent restrictions, necessarily, but all waves peaked and ebbed at some point, per nature. Understandably healthcare provision needed to be protected but the idea that restrictions stopped waves of the virus in its path is total nonsense.

Restrictions mitigated serious illness and death but only through reduction of contact and/or ‘cocooning’ - the only way to interrupt an airborne virus. Both unsustainable for an entire functional society, except for in short bursts, but both entirely optional and possible for any individual at risk or in fear, as a long term mitigation of serious illness or death.

We may have paused or flattened the curve of a wave through restrictions, but to claim that waves abated on account of restrictions (other than no contact lockdown) is nonsense.

Micky, you really need to get off the internet I think! If you keep looking for this sort of information, you'll find it. I rarely hear about any Covid stories anymore, apart from the odd venture into this thread. Most people don't know, nor care, about these variants and sub-lineages anymore. I'd argue that these are things for medical experts to monitor, not the general public. Such as it was pre-Covid.

The next 2 years are crucial

Are the hse still sending close contact messages, a friend got one and was wondering if its a scam?

You have the memory of the goldfish if you think that hospitals never had huge issues in winter. It is quite normal for bed capacity to run out even.

And resorting to one of the typical phrases of the doom merchants, "get a grip", points to a lack of evidence for one of the incorrect assumptions on which a lot of our restrictions were based.

Don't need to apologise, just don't use it as it is hard to take a side I disagree with when I see "cop on", "do the right thing" and "get a grip" as arguments, personally speaking when I tried to discuss the logic behind restrictions the last two years!