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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭stesaurus


    A week or two ago I'd have said full Regen all the way. Got used to it way back in an i3 and have driven using one pedal and max Regen 95% of the time in all cars since.

    The new i4 has an adaptive Regen setting which is fantastic. You can do the old pulse and coast manoeuvre that Leafs used to love. It senses traffic and bends and adjusts the Regen on the fly. So much handier than messing with paddles or finding a sweet spot on the accelerator.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Not perfect is correct, you need to take into account the voltage of the car's battery, for Tesla M3 SR/SR+/RWD this will differ, this impacts on the 50kW units moreso



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Maybe they should have just put in a random number generator 😂

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If you hold up the gear selector to the first stop when in drive mode the car will go to N and you can freewheel at your hearts content. I sometimes do that if somebody's tailgating me and I want to very gradually slow down to the new limit or at long motorway declines. But otherwise modulating the throttle for just right amount of regen is a second nature to me after driving with this and before that with Nissan ProPilot both of which operate pretty much the same.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    That Regen is aggressive for good reason, in the 26k Kms I drove in my Model S 34% of the power used was through Regen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭stesaurus


    Well not really. There's still an inefficiency of using too much power and needing Regen to slow you down. Sure you get most of it back but there are losses.

    Now, if I'm just going for a spin on the backroads and want to have a bit of fun then max Regen/B Mode to help aid late breaking but that's a very different situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,643 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I had 4 different levels of regen braking in my last EV (zero / coasting, mild, medium and strong). It was a bit gimmicky, I usually just used medium. And on longer motorway journeys switched to mild or even off as @stesaurus rightly points out, you actually lose range if regen is too strong. The battery in that car was very small and I sometimes needed the range

    In Teslas you have either standard or low regen braking. Standard is fairly strong and has one pedal driving in Model 3 and Model Y. I leave it to standard and I don't like when you don't get any regen braking when the battery is full or very cold. Also one of the reasons I now dislike driving ICE cars. Some people who are no big fans of regen, just switch it to low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Unfortunately Tesla, well the RWD I have, has done away with the two levels of regen. Strong most of the time unless the battery a bit cold. Loved the smart regen on my VW, I'm sure saved me more than once from speed fines..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,643 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Ah ok, every day a school day. It's a good few months since I last drove a Model 3 (Freemont made Performance) and I didn't spot that in my test drive of the (China made) Model Y last week (I like one pedal driving, so never thought to have a look in the menu). All Model S and Model X have two levels afaik. I wish they had one pedal driving too.

    Yeah, that sucks if you don't like strong regen. But I bet you will get used to it though?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Yea, used to it this stage after about 2.8K kms. But I find at times I would like a zero regen, particularly when not in a hurry. You just have to be aware that in the Tesla, similarly the new Ioniq 5 (When in zero regen) that there is no regen on the brake pedal. Does give the Tesla slightly more normal feeling brakes though, if you need them.

    Often find I stick on the basic cruise control briefly even on country roads just to stop getting cramp in my right foot..🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,229 ✭✭✭creedp


    Are you saying you get cramp in your right foot from keeping it on the accelerator? How long would you have been driving before suffering from cramp?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    It's not so bad as I perhaps made it sound, but I do like to move my feet around from time to time whether driving or on a long haul flight.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Buzwaldo


    Same here. This is part of my minor gripe with my new M3. As I said above, always on regen, coupled with a stiffish accelerator pedal (strong spring, if you know what I mean - can empathise with @eagerv’s cramp)

    Then along with this, there’s nowhere to put my right foot when using cruise control. My ice has a ‘shelf’ to place my foot beside the accelerator (at the same angle) when using cruise control, but in the Tesla I can only place it flat on the floor which is far less comfortable on a motorway trip.

    Now don’t get me wrong, I do love the M3, but I would prefer a footrest and regen level options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,638 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Leaf insurance up for renewal in the coming days.

    Anyone renewed their ev recently? And if so, who was competitive for electric cars?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I got a good renewal price from chill.ie (agent) and they are nice to deal with also. But as usual check a few usual suspects before making a decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,991 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    AXA for me.

    123 were almost €900 for my renewal.

    AXA online €507 and when I rang them they gave it to me for €480.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    123 for both cars now..

    Had the Tesla for the 1st 2 years with XS Direct (started a fresh new policy with 0 NCB) but they are shutting down so 123 was the best price @ €885

    Very easy to deal with regarding document uploads and online portal etc...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Aviva were cheapest for me, but we've both cars plus house so getting the biggest discount. I don't think we got any particular discount for having EVs, I think it's entirely based on the age and value of the car

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Aviva also for us, both Ioniq 5 and Tesla Model 3 at €320. We do have other insurances with them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭Liam2021


    We have both cars id3/id4 insured with Aviva. Both for €320 each. That was the minimum price that they can charge. Have house insurance with them also, very easy to deal with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭silver_sky


    I got a pretty good deal on my last insurance renewal with An Post Insurance. I was quite surprised as I think it wasn't too good previously.

    In other news, just confirmed that I'm buying out the battery on my Zoe. Battery still doing well, but lease is hanging like a bad smell. We want to change the car at some point and it's getting in the way. At least I'll be able to sell private or trade without waiting weeks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Love this one, make service stations with no EV charging pay an annual fee of $10k

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,638 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Update on the insurance quotes.

    Current insurer Allianz was looking to renew at 412. Previous year was 366.

    Quotes so far in order of cost:

    Aviva 354

    Zurich (via chill) 368

    An Post 381

    AXA 494

    123.ie 571



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,396 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    There's a climate change special in Prime times tonight. Would expect some discussion on EVs on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Expectations

    1. Somebody talking about how EVs are selling well but are bad for the environment and take 14 hours to charge at the only charger in the country and the car will randomly explode into flames and also hunts down and eats goats if left unattended at night

    They'll dig out some college professor to talk about how great hydrogen is

    1. Rte will make some random comments about how people can't afford EVs while also banging on about needing everyone to pay the license fee otherwise Tubbs might need to be put down

    Edit: remind me never to use the numbers list on boards again 😬

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    I'll try the numbers :)

    1. Talk slightly positive on EVs then quickly cut to negativity about the electricity grid and rubber particulate pollution.
    2. Rave about heat pumps without mention of electricity grid.
    3. Talk about how great anaerobic digestion is, they can be fed with grass isn't that great sure it's CO2 neutral.
    4. Closing segment about sea level rise and Cork city being underwater in a few years.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Don't forget the customary video of a 2 year old baby in a mud pool in the Far East mining cobalt while still being breastfed by his mother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭markpb




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