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Random EV thoughts.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah it looks like I need either a destination charger for a couple of hours or 20 mins on a DC.

    I can either go for castlbellingham on the way there or back, or risk the NI network if I'm feeling dangerous

    Looks like I'll be doing a lot of grazing on the way North

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,991 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    It's hit and miss. You could hit lucky and get a 22kw working or a destination charger that could keep you going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭cannco253




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭crisco10


    I came across this EU supply tender, seems to be a bunch of ~50kW in the louth region. Pretty random!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,318 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Leader was mentioned in Irish government EV strategy recently. It's some sort of North south Scotland thing, which might deliver some chargers in border areas. Seems to have funding and been around a while if nothing delivered yet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    ‘Faster’ presented on the IEVOA thing over the weekend so if anyone wants to see their pitch, it's in the Everything you want to know about EV's thread.

    Post edited by AndyBoBandy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,318 ✭✭✭zg3409


    See plugshare app for details. It is slow.

    Castlecourt was inaccessible recently, it seems the chargers ate being actively replaced at present, see plugshare app again.

    I would warn everyone that NI charging is in a terrible state with some chademo chargers having no CCS and many chargers broken for over a year. Plan carefully any NI trip and check real status on plugshare app. There is talks of new chargers from esb in NI but nothing much real on the ground. The 50kW+ chargers tend to be busy 24/7 as they are free to use and so few working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭joanofarc


    Sorry for jumping on to thread but I can't seem to get a diffinitive answer to this question. When using regenerative braking do you physically need to use the paddles to slow the vehicle or once you've programmed them do you then leave them be and the settings will take care of the regenerative braking?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    You do not need to use paddels to slow the vehicle down but in some cars if you hold the paddles in it will bring the car to a complete stop and also a complete stop a little bit earlier than allowing the car to draw to a stop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,638 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    When you are stopped, or sitting at lights for example, and have your foot on the brake pedal, should you get into the habit of putting your ev in Park mode until you need to move off again? Or does it do no harm sitting in Drive with the brake holding the car from moving?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    I do. Stops your brake lights annoying the car behind. On my previous ID it was very easy with the selector and park brake at the wheel. On my present Model 3 a firm press on the brake pedal puts the car into brake hold. Press the accelerator pedal and you are away again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭innrain


    I don't think you need to put it in the park mode. For example Kona has a feature called autohold which kicks in when at stand still and will not move unless acceleration pedal is pressed. You have to activate it every time you start the car. Tesla has the same feature enabled by default.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Depends on the car. In the Model 3 I have it set for 1 pedal driving, meaning I only ever use the brake pedal in an emergency as 99% of normal driving means I never need to tap the brake pedal at all. Imagine it's like a bumper car, and all movement is controlled by feathering the accelerator pedal, even up to a complete stop.

    I drove through Dublin city yesterday and didn't tap the brake pedal once.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭Fingleberries


    When I rented the Model3 last year (with UFO Drive), I found the one-pedal driving a bit strange and couldn't get the hand of it.

    Owning the Model 3 for about two weeks, I'd hate to go back.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Remember to use the brakes from time to time though, the Model S has a weakness in that if the calipers lock, they will lock "open", best to use the brakes on one journey every few weeks to keep them clean and "moving"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Usually on Saturdays, its cold in the morning and I'll have charged to 90% meaning the regen will have reduced a bit, and the brakes will get a few taps while leaving the estate..

    Post edited by AndyBoBandy on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    That is the default now with the Model 3 RWD, just one level of regen, but you can have creep on or off. I prefer it on. I find makes life easier if inching the car in tight spaces with the brake pedal covered. But which ever your preference, there is no need to sit at lights with your foot on the brake. Some cars are are a bit aggressive when coming out of brake hold, but the Tesla anyway is docile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,318 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Depends on car but typically no. On many cars such as Hyundai and Kia if you press the brake pedal it will also use regeneration in addition to the actual brakes if required. In fact lack of use of brakes can cause them to rust and siese up. Tesla modified the behaviour of their brakes so that at very low speeds the actual brakes are used, to try clean up rust from the brakes to stop rust. This was done to prevent brake discs needing to be replaced due to rust, having been barely worn.

    On some cars you can set different regeneration on different drive modes such as eco, sport, normal having different default regeneration.


    For maximum range under extreme range stingy conditions you want no regeneration and keep way back from car in front and never brake. While regeneration puts power back in battery it's not that efficient, better to not brake or slow in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭joanofarc


    Thank you for that explanation. I just purchased Kona all electric. Bit of a gimic then really having the peddles at all when I'm sure that regen could have been set in the cluster itself rather than attaching the physical peddles to the steering wheel 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭wassie


    I always have the foot on the brake (out of habit) when at a complete stop in traffic, so that if I get a love tap from the car behind I (hopefully) wont be shunted into the car in front.

    I appreciate that the car will hold itself when at rest, but I am unsure if it would hold if my foot wasnt on the brake in such a situation so apply the brake as a precautionary measure. It might also be a complete waste of time.

    Post edited by wassie on


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,829 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    The pedals for the Kona are to adjust the level of regen up or down and as pointed out above, in the Kona if you hold in they agressively bring the car to a complete stop via regen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    A quick click of the paddles allows adjusting the regen while driving without having to go to the menu which is great. Hold in the right paddle to swap between auto regen and normal regen. As mention click and hold in the left paddle, this uses a regen level higher than level 3.

    Auto regen is great and is a bit of a safety feature. Not sure if it's meant to be.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Do the ID cars keep the lights on when they're in auto hold? I'd check myself but the car goes into park whenever I get out of the drivers seat 😂

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah I never got the attraction of having paddles to set the regen, do people really change it that often?

    Having said that some configuration would be nice, the ID cars basically just have D mode for minimal regen and B mode for max regen. Really wish they had a proper one pedal mode, two pedal driving is far too much work for me 😁

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,576 ✭✭✭eagerv


    TBH never checked, but I doubt it. Must have a look on my Model 3 as well, at least you can see from the car graphic on screen when brake lights are on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Every day. Zero for motorway. Level one or two for local driving, squeeze the paddle every now and then for braking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭electricus


    Yeah, brake lights stay on in auto hold, only noticed that recently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,005 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Hmm, okay fair point. I still feel like the paddle shift would be for something you'd be using every few seconds

    While I like the simplicity of D and B modes, I do feel it silly that the ID cars lack a one pedal mode that Kia/Hyundai have.

    I still feel like Nissan have it best with just a switch to turn one pedal on and off, no need to hold anything down

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Buzwaldo


    Recently got a model 3 and while I love it, I dislike that the regen is set so strong all the time. I know I can use c control, but I miss being able to ‘freewheel’ at times like in my ice car. Some of the cars I test drove ( Kia? and perhaps Hyundai) had a few regen settings, one of which effectively allowed coasting. I think I would prefer a few options here.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,179 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    We love the 1 pedal driving of the Model 3.

    set it on Hold (Full regen) the 1st day and have never changed it since…..

    52,000km on the car and the brake pads are only just worn in.



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