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Leo Varadkar Assaulted verbally while out jogging

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    Language is important - he was not ‘assaulted’ in any way, that’s a ridiculous way to describe what happened. Anyone living in a city will have had similar experiences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    Assaulted 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Yep, sadly we get scummers shouting random abuse. I actually heard some lad shout 'look at your man with the hair' because someone had a pony tail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,247 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The only 'shocking' thing in that video is the level of traffic on the quays.



  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭Ham_Sandwich


    He was assaulted verbally, which is still assault, and the possible homophobic nature of the assault makes it even more troubling, not surprised at some people's willingness to dismiss it out of hand.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,247 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,823 ✭✭✭Allinall


    What did he promise that hasn't been delivered?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,160 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    there's people making little of it here, but i'd imagine life is hell for politicians in public, for those of you earning the same as a politician would you add that abuse into your package and think it's ok?


    a tanaiste going for a jog in the city says more about him than it does about the two scrotes in the van thinking they're hilarious



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,636 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    In other news, plenty of people out doing jogging, walking etc get verbally "assaulted" every day

    Well, its not news really......and either is this


    As you were



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,160 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    i don't think you personally would get a job that affects the whole population, so you can't really empathise here



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Kinda sounded like he called him a 'puff'.. not sure though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,160 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,402 ✭✭✭plodder


    Legally, there's no such thing as a "verbal assault". As for it being a torrent of abuse, I could make out two profanities in total.

    Compared to what happened to that chap the other night on Dame Street, this is pretty tame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,823 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Who else got verbally assaulted while out jogging today?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,893 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Fairly awful. He really should go to the Gardai with that, shouldn't be too hard to identify the car at least.



  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭animalinside


    "scummer" a bit over the top. I thought it was going to be some dark, intimidating tirade when it was actually light-hearted and we heard laughter. I don't think it was appropriate but you don't know if they have personal reason to feel aggrieved. By calling them a "scummer" what you're actually doing is outing yourself as a classist individual who wants nothing more than to feel smug and look down on others.

    "vile torrent of abuse" my ass.

    Oh wow, he actually said look at the man with the hair! What a terrible, offensive thing, let's call the police and have him arrested!



  • Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭foxsake


    it was hardly life threatening to be called names.

    The right minded people get very protective of Leo cos he ticks a few boxes that make him a protected species.

    The same pearl-clutchers wouldn't give it a moments thought if it was a Healy-Rae (or even Micheal Martin ) being slagged.

    funny that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Prick was what it sound like to me.

    Your a Prick ?

    Your a **** wanker ?


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    I got called a "spastic" while out for a run last weekend because some dope couldn't control his dog. I told him where to go and carried on, got home just before the rain started. Would I call it "assault" ? No. Just a part of life really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    One thing I always loved about Ireland is that politicians are generally accessible and live semi normal lives. Incidents like this will only lead to some kind of us system where politicians have security details and are never out in public alone. No need for the abuse, it achieves nothing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    .

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,402 ✭✭✭plodder


    If the bleeped out word was homophobic, you can be sure the Independent would have mentioned that.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous






  • He should have a security detail at the least if he's going to jog the quays in 2022.

    Times have changed after the last 2 years, definitely more extreme views out there.

    Not to mind it's pretty rough in parts of the city centre.



  • Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    You're embellishing.

    Anyway, the word "assault" means practically nothing when you expand it's scope to this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    One of the nice things about Ireland is that people with a bit of fame can generally go about their business without getting personal abuse. There have been a few instances in recent times* where that has not been the case and I think that that is a shame.



    *Varadkar getting the milkshake thrown at him and Pat Kenny being aggressively questioned by some guy while recording on his phone also springs to mind



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,290 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Not surprised by what happened.

    Not surprised by the dismissal of it on here.

    Both are very sadly par for the course.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Them fellas are being pricks for sure but what part was homophobic ? I honestly didn't hear any of that, sounded like pr*** and fu**er to me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭animalinside


    It's the boy who called wolf scenario. People getting on their high horse, being greedy and over the top in their complaints, and it ends up where someone being said to have committed assault or a sex offender may have done nothing at all.

    I love also how it's the people who delivered the abuse are the ones who recorded and released it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Anyone who goes around shouting out car windows at people they don't know, is a scummer. We all know the type. It's not "harmless fun", only a certain type of gobsh1te does it.

    Whether it's shouting out the window at a cyclist, wolf-whistling at some hot thing or shouting abuse at a politician, it's always the same kind of sh1t-for-brains that does it and thinks they're a comedian.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Notmything


    And you would have people on here commenting on him out with a security detail.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Greedy in complaints 🙄

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 897 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter




  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Unpleasant behaviour by a pair of immature fools, but not assault. FWIW, I like Leo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,367 ✭✭✭bladespin


    It's not very nice but we're not living in a very nice world, I'm sure Leo's had a lot worse said to him in Leinster house, we've gone very soft altogether if we're considering that assault.

    MasteryDarts Ireland - Master your game!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    BTW the report doesn't suggest it was homophobic abuse.

    I'd say politicians get this thrown at them all the time, but rarely if ever mention it.

    If you get a chance to ask a politician a hard question then you should do it, should you confront them on the street ... no.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    1: Not shout at people out their windows?

    2: Call it out for what it is.


    I saw somewhere else that Leo said he gets abuse of some sort on a weekly basis. Mad that anybody (regardless of political persuasion) would consider a career as a politician, don't know how/why they do it...



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,004 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Indeed, there are innumerable threads on this site dedicated to what an absolutely lairy kip Dublin city has become, if only the victim knew someone in a position of power that could address the lack of policing and the spiralling levels of lawlessness that pervade the city!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    You seem easily offended. I think people who shout out at people are pretty scummy. Nothing classiest in it. You don't know me nor I you. Not everyone from any class would behave in such a manner. Are you suggesting that?

    I used my example to show how juvenile it can be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Jarhead_Tendler


    It can be very intimidating to have people shouting out the window at you. Personally as a disabled person it often happens and I never come away from the situation feeling good. Hopefully Leo has thicker skin than me and it doesn't affect him .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,789 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Yep, I was thinking the same. He’s the Tánaiste after all.. and in the city with all that’s going on… ill feeling etc…don’t get me wrong I’ve no time for the guy whatsoever as a politician but it’s a bit loose on his behalf as regards the responsibility of his position to be off without a single Garda…especially in that area…

    absolute scumbags though, he was referred to by one of them as a prick.. That’s fairly clear despite the attempted verbal redaction…should just have published the video as was…

    I doubt that many ex prime ministers or current deputies around the world are just out jogging without so much as a single police officer or body guard..



  • Registered Users Posts: 391 ✭✭animalinside


    Is there another video of someone shouting out car windows?

    I heard this man call Leo and call him a prick, clearly he doesn't like the man. As I say I don't approve of it, but I hardly think it's "shocking" and "a vile torrent of abuse" - really?

    You say someone he doesn't know - but we all know Varadkar and he affects all our lives. It's not like this was some fat person minding their own business getting made fun of, it's someone who puts themselves out there as representing others and making big decisions on their behalf.

    Either create a law making it a specific offence to verbally abuse a politician in public or forget it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    That hardly qualifies as verbal assault. Plenty of people walking the streets of Dublin get shouted at by aggressive junkies or just little scumbags with nothing to do with their time, so keep it in context.

    Im more worried about how extremely basic and easily pleased those 2 fellows in the car are. They actually think they are genuinely funny plus that its funny to roll down the window and call someone a pr!ck. Imagine being married to or working with that...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    This is a joke, right?

    That the Children's Hospital would be built on budget for one.

    Leos' time in Health was a disaster that he couldn't run away from fast enough - and considering he's a qualified doctor he would have had more insight into the challenges in the system than most he would be more qualified than almost any other TD at the time and indeed since to lead that Department.

    I'm not excusing what happened to him on the Quays, but let's not exaggerate the extent of that "assault", nor pretend Leo is whiter than white and has never failed to deliver things he has promised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭brokenangel


    It's is great to see the posters on here defending the people in the car. Says a lot really



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,189 ✭✭✭Brucie Bonus


    Hey, be critical of what I posted not what you read into it.

    Its the kind of thing happens every day. I'm not aghast or beside myself.

    For me normal decent people don't pass comment on others.

    If they shouted he was shite at his job I'd consider that acceptable commentary to a public official but still not something the average person would do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭boardise


    Well good to see that subsequent Health Ministers have been able to put the system to rights ....

    oh no, hang on ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,426 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Well for me we're probably not any better off now than we were when the crash came in 2008... there is no hope for young people... see the girl who works for RTE says she can never expect to have a home of her own...



  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Anabelle Gentle Toupee


    Christ above, a public figure and second-in-command to the most powerful office in the land is called a prick.

    There are underpaid and overworked workers up and down the country that encounter much worse on the reg.

    You'd swear he'd been accosted in the jacks and given a swirly the way the pearl-clutchers in here are carrying on.

    Even Leo himself brushes it off with a polite "piss off, lads."



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Cannot understand how people would dismiss something like this here...

    Fine you don't agree with Varadkar, maybe you don't like him or his policies - however that does NOT give you the right to hurl abuse at a citizen of this country or intimidate them either. This is a very slippery slope and let's not forget what happened in the U.K. where a Tory MP was murdered, Sir David Amess. Plenty of people didn't agree with him either but by all accounts he was a good MP who did genuinely care for his constituents.

    If people want to protest policy, do so via contacting TD's through proper channels, organise a peaceful protest, organise a social media event, vote for the opposition or independents on local or general elections.



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