Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Russia - threadbanned users in OP

1119311941196119811993690

Comments

  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    To add. Putin has already committed Nazi level war crimes.

    It's not like he's not a psychopath. One that's potentially dying.

    At least some of the pro NATO attacking Russia supporters admit they are not too bothered about billions of children being killed horribly as long as Putin gets what's coming to him.



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Nobody wants to give Putin what he wants, including possibly nuclear war so he can go out on a high.


    Give Ukraine far better conventional weapons first. No, let's go risk ww3 as the next option so I can look like a hard man on boards.ie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    So frustrating to hear about Ukranian people speaking with family members in Russia who in turn simply refuse to believe what is going on .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭goldenmick


    Ambiguity? Cheap shot?

    You're very adept at pulling the wool over your own eyes as well as others.

    You know damn well I can't go back over 1200+ pages of the thread one by one.

    You DID tell numerous people previously to go to the Ukraine and fight if they felt that strongly about it. And now you're denying it, which makes you a liar. And you're still continuing to spout the same nonsense in the last 2 or 3 pages. (If anyone knows a way to quickly pull up all of a persons posts on this thread, then please let me know).

    People only have to read your posts for the last few hours on here to see exactly the type of person you are. Almost all of them are sneering at people, insulting, name calling, derisory and dismissive.

    You clearly think you're something you're not. It's not clever or smart to continually talk down to posters, disrespect their views, be rudely dismissive and attempt to belittle them. You've done that to dozens of posters, and Boards is the loser at your presence on here.

    Your opinion counts for nothing when you're continually trying to force it as the only correct view on people, and pathetically trying to back it up with your schoolboy sneers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,109 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    This isn't just Russian media.

    I was talking to an Irish fellow today who has somehow gotten himself exposed to all this online. Apparently this was wasn't brought on by Russia invading Ukraine. It was actually provocation by NATO and the US that forced Russia to go to war. All the civilian casualties in this war is just Western propaganda. The missile attack on a Ukrainian railway station was actually a false flag (if you hear anyone say these words, it should be a warning flag in of itself) the attack was actually propagated by Ukraine.

    I am under no illusions that Ukraine is perfect, but compared to the totalitarian Russian regime, it's clear something that's worth supporting.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude



    What part of Russias 6500 nuclear warheads did you miss?Are you aware of the madman called Putin have threatened to use them?

    Did you count them all and confirm they all actually work? Because going by their military equipment hardly any or it looks decent and looks more like scrap than anything else.

    Anyway Putin isn't going to use Nuclear weapons he knows he can't as there would be no logical approach or sense to use them and especially not in Ukraine. If he does Russia is also finished as a country. He is just flashing this card at the West because he knows they are weak and won't do nothing. He is ahead of them at present with basic strategies even if he's losing the war on the ground. The West are like a rabbit in the headlights not knowing what to do or handle Russia exactly.


    sure wouldnt gamble on it,would you

    At this stage we should.



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Is that what you are relying on? What if he has only 500 functioning missiles. And you can be sure the subs are maintained at least.

    Based on that alone your risk analysis is poor and I don't think you'll have convinced NATO to attack Russian forces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    No

    He didn't condemn the rape and murder of innocents

    He deserved a firm rebuttal for saying "ah sure that's grand if there's a war on" (my paraphrase)

    Read between his lines? - cologne on a pig!



  • Posts: 2,015 [Deleted User]


    And you are willing to gamble 4-5 billions lifes over the nuclear warheads doesnt work and he wont use them because its no logic?

    Is there any logic to invading a country to liberate it from Nazis that doesnt exist and murder and raping women and children in cold blood?

    Is there any logic in defending war crimes even though the evidence is in front of you?

    Is there any logic in sending your own troops as canonfodder telling them its an excersise?

    I wouldnt trust a notorius war criminal and liar sitting on 6500 nuclear warheads,some he even stole from Ukraine to guarantee their security.



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    First of all where have I denied anything? You said I'm a liar because I denied something. That's BS for staters. Your coming across like one of the Russian presenters.

    Point out where I denied saying those that think NATO should attack Russian troops should sign up. I didnt. Find it and I'll leave this thread for good. There's your incentive.

    Away with you and your toxic accusations.

    And you can click on my avatar and bring up my posts to speed you up.

    Second, as succinctly as possible, tell me what kind of person I am?



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭ollkiller


    Long time lurker in this thread. Just want to say thank you to everyone giving real time updates. Bullys need to be stood up to. F#ck Putin. To all Ukrainians you are the bravest people ever and the West should be doing more to help you. History will not be kind to our weak response. Just know most ordinary people in the West are there to help and assist any way we can. Praying for the day the invaders are driven from your country. To all you Russian bots. Hang your head in shame.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    That was a fascinating listen. Not sure the Russian minister was supposed to be that blunt about things , from either a Russian or west perspective.


    I would worry about him saying that the Kremlin is convinced victory will be assured soon and Ukraines government will be gone. What does that mean? How does that happen given what we have seen? Is it WOMs? Covert killings? What could make russia think it’s gonna wrap things up in a few weeks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    The Russians don't maintain very little from what we have seen in this war. Have you seen the Russian military vehicles and tanks, many of them breaking down. Even their military trucks had cheap bad and defective rubber under them not fit for purpose. Some of their missiles didn't even detonate when fired. Who's to say that some of their nuclear weapons could malfunction?

    Again in your world, NATO don't have to intervene in this war because of the sanctions they have introduced which you are getting a horn about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    I found the documentary," Putin's road to war" on RTE player. This is interesting and mentions the apartment block bombings.

    I haven't watched this on player as I'v it recorded so I don't know how well it plays.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    I've no doubt a lot of their missiles won't work. The problem is that many will, and when a single one hitting, say, New York will kill millions.

    It won't take you long to read back on my posts to see I support a lot more than sanctions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,141 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    Putin will do what he thinks he has to before his big parade day next month that is someyhing to worry about he is desperate and that makes him very dangerous especially as it looks like nobody will stand up against him .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I think the Baltic states are now rolling up their sleeves and may even intervene on the ground. They know that Putin has shot his bolt more or less, and will never be in a position to retaliate conventionally against them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,388 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    hopefully Putin needs to suffer some serious defeats to maybe get some people thinking about change not holding my breath though .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Come on now, you must approach pronouncements like this from both sides in time of war with a large pinch of salt.

    The only sort of definites are what transpires in real time: we know that initial Russian thrust to Kyiv has failed, we see the evidence of much destroyed Russian equipment, we see the ruination of many Ukrainian towns and some cities, we know the Russians have a strong foothold in the east, we know the Ukrainian defence forces are well established there and will be reinforced. We don't know how this battle on a long front will work out, the Russian forces will presumably fix their supply problems and throw a lot in to try and overwhelm, the Ukrainian forces supplied by the West will resist fiercely and try and drive forward. Who will prevail? Who knows but if morale of the troops is a factor, Ukraine has a significant edge.



  • Advertisement
  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Much of that because Germany was a pretty well educated, advanced and cosmopolitan society. The nazis arose out of the Weinmar era which was one of the most "liberal" societies in Europe at the time. When the nazis came to power and in their run for power they had to keep that in mind. Their propaganda had to be more measured and insidious. They could only rant so much. Hitler looks like he's ranting at his rallies, but read the subtitles when present. He's whipping up the crowd to beat the band, but rarely enough goes the the route of alley way gouger shouting scum and the like when he's doing it. Though that nazi insidiousness can be worse as it can pollute otherwise normal minds to horrors, as it did. When they marched into Austria, the Austrians glee at active and murderous Antisemitism initially shocked them, as they were still playing to international optics at that stage. Even after that nation was responsible for some of the vilest acts in human history, when Hitler and his curs were dead look how quickly they reverted to the mean of their society. The Allies rightfully feared an ongoing guerrilla campaign after nazi Germany's fall but it never happened. Sure there were a few old nazi true believers left, but they got pretty short shrift in any elections and most had to bugger off to South America.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,469 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    We shouldn't, we should keep giving Ukraine as much as they ask for and it is sh*tty, but that is the starting and endpoint when MAD exists, whoever says otherwise is a feeble keyboard warrior with no convictions of their own.

    The real question is how far countries can keep on pushing back as russia defangs itself in a very stupid way, the west has gained control through all this, russia is making itself a complete joke, china will use russian weakness to push its own agenda.

    The people of russia are signed up for a sub-par life that will get worse the longer this goes on.

    Hopefully the west supplies Ukraine all that it wants to rebuild and become a flourishing democracy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Ah stop, so many of you keep soapboxing in this thread it’s just not funny. I listened to the piece and found it interesting and worrying because you have a dictator in trouble and you have somebody close to him saying he won’t accept defeat.

    Only Time will tell how this plays out, you don’t know what Russia are capable of anymore then I do, I wish people would stop talking through their hat in absolutes about a conflict nobody can predict.



  • Posts: 2,015 [Deleted User]


    All it takes is one single nuclear missile and the retaliation strike will be sent

    I mean US even dropped launching a test missile of their newest ICBMs in case of Russia misunderstood the whole purpose of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,845 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    What would have happened if some rogue sniper took out Boris and Zenlensky today? Would the UK have then entered this war ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    And you think that someone 'close to Putin' is credible? One thing we have observed is that the Russian playbook is based on lies and false promises. So only time will tell, you wouldn't trust them an inch.

    We must suspect that the Russian military will be very wary of using WMD, because the implications of drawing in other conventional forces is very real and they are in no great condition to continue if that happens. An all out offensive using conventional weapons to take the full Donbas region seems the most likely course.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You really don't do nuance and understanding the complexity of wider positions, do you? Of course he couldn't come out and start hoisting the blue and yellow and calling putin a butcher. He's not some random twat on twitter who two months ago was waxing inexpertly and emotionally lyrical on covid, only to find Ukraine on a map for the first time in his life when his attention was swung by the same inexpert emotionals looking for a meme that will get him more likes.

    In his position of being very close to the throne - and one that will have been very closely watched - even the simple plain fact he called it a war speaks volumes. Like I said read between the bloody lines, because if there's any hope of putin being taken down by those within his circle it'll come from between those very same lines. It won't come from the vodka fuelled numpties grown fat on his bribed largesse in his "information bureau", or his 70 point IQ foot soldiers in his meat grinder, it will come from men like him.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Posts: 5,082 [Deleted User]


    The fact the putin didn't call it a war and told soldiers they were going on exercise should be enough to know he won't use nuclear weapons against a western intervention.


    Nevertheless, if the west did not want to overtly intervene it could have played the little green men game that Russia played.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,251 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    In situations like this the biggest risk is a mistake or miscalculation on one side or the other.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,479 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    One thing that fascinates me about all this is how the regime, the state propaganda machine and the legions of Putin groupies would be able to handle a defeat for Russia at the hands of the Ukrainian military. The whole affair and justification for the invasion and war is that is predicated on a Russian victory. A defeat for the regime would surely send all the above into nervous breakdown / straightjacket territory.



This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement