Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

RoTelly · 05-04-2022 02:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118884149#Comment_118884149

I think it is more about asking questions. For example: if you take claire byrne interviewing MM on the reintroduction on Mandatory Mask wearing, she was so clearly in favour of the idea that she was testy with the Taoiseach, but a few months earlier she was like a kitten totally ready to mask up for the good of the nation, without even considering the questions that might come from so called "anti-maskers" such as "but Taoiseach only a few months ago we were advised that masks didn't work what has changed?"

People may not like either stance in questioning but if you are in a one on one interview you must play devil's advocate, otherwise you do not have a debate or any questions being asked.

I find Irish News and CA to be very bland because no one is willing to debate anything in fear they might offended someone.

Cape Clear · 05-04-2022 02:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118884149#Comment_118884149

The claim was made by Lee's campaign manager.

I suppose if you had a house fire you'd ring a hair dresser, which is along the same lines as sending Lee off to report on Covid. As a national publicly funded broadcaster surely the least it's funders deserve is to have suitably qualified or experienced people reporting on a subject. A first year med student would have added more than Lee.

TheRiverman · 05-04-2022 02:38PM

George Lee is the definitive doom and gloom reporter on RTE.

elperello · 05-04-2022 05:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118884240#Comment_118884240

When did his campaign manager make that claim?

AFAIK he was frozen out by an internal FG power struggle involving his effort to have more influence on policy.

As I outlined in my other post he is suitably qualified and experienced.

If you don't like his style that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

elperello · 05-04-2022 05:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118884277#Comment_118884277

To be fair there's not much joy to be gleaned from his last two assignments.

Hard to find the upside reporting on Covid and Climate Change.

Cape Clear · 05-04-2022 07:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118885076#Comment_118885076

Suitably qualified my ass. His style has nothing to do with it. His lack of qualifications in his subject area is the issue.

elperello · 05-04-2022 07:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118885659#Comment_118885659

In your opinion.

What about the campaign manager claim?

RoTelly · 06-04-2022 11:42AM

It is amazing how quickly this thread can move back to everything that is there to distract from the ultimately badly managed organization that is RTÉ.

Cathal Goan: Distraction Tactics

Executive: Thinking of getting George Lee to go up for election

CG: Eh!

Executive: as a member of FG

CG: and the Mullholland joby

Executive: Missioned accomplished!

5 years later

Noel Curran: Distraction Tactics

Executive: We've brought George Lee back so that is helpful for a while, thinking of getting Pat Kenny to move to Newstalk, that along with the usual Angelus stuff.

NC: Eh!

Executive: Mulholland replaced by BBC Exe who had some connection to the whole Saville thing, but really not enough to get people talking.

NC: That's surprising considering the bollocking I got from Dobo on Six One.

3 years later

Dee Forbes: Distraction Tactics

Executive: We've decided that the Late Late should slowly morph into a telethon for various causes and that Ryan will show no real emotion.

DF: Eh!

Executive: Claire Byrne is going to Monday nights with a psuedo-Current Affairs show but really we have some props we need using and it will be a consumer show.

DF: Well hopefully something major will happen. Now do I get those moving fee direct to my account?

RandomViewer · 06-04-2022 04:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118883918#Comment_118883918

Or in his case Wikipedia

RandomViewer · 06-04-2022 04:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118885095#Comment_118885095

The sore back appeared when covid numbers got worse, someone obviously had a word telling RTE they can't have Lee terrifying pensioners every evening,l

elperello · 06-04-2022 05:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118889987#Comment_118889987

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118890010#Comment_118890010

Made up stuff is not convincing.

RandomViewer · 06-04-2022 08:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118890384#Comment_118890384

That you, George?

elperello · 06-04-2022 09:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891436#Comment_118891436

You are at the bottom of the barrel now.

RandomViewer · 06-04-2022 09:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891458#Comment_118891458

The man's a ham actor, overexaggersting every report, what would be known as a shytehawk, your blind defence would suggest a vested interest ,whether you consider my criticism of the doom monger as an attack on RTE or you personally I don't care. My suspicion is he was taken off air because he was scaring the oul wans so unless you can prove different that's my take on what happened

Atlantic Dawn · 06-04-2022 09:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891558#Comment_118891558

If I believed word for word what came out of his mouth regarding climate change and rising sea levels I would have a small yacht in the front garden ready to go with provisions to last me a few months waiting for his next bulletin to say Dublin was now below the sea.

RoTelly · 06-04-2022 09:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891558#Comment_118891558

I don't think RTÉ watch RTÉ, so I don't think they would know what the auld ones are watching. TBH. If they did know what people had to suffer through sure they'd have to change a huge amount of content.

Dee Forbes: So you mean to tell me that people actually watch this ****

Executive: We advise all incoming DG's to watch BBC1 of an evening, we also have set up Netflix for you, even better still if you could avoid listening to Radio we've signed you up for Audible

DF: And this works?

Executive: Oh! Yes the less interested the DG is in content the better, now we have that €50k moving fee ready to be deposited into your bank, but if you insist

DF: No... I like BBC1 and Netflix!

elperello · 06-04-2022 09:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891558#Comment_118891558

Now you want me to prove that your fantasies are untrue.

Simple fact is you have an animosity towards GL and that's all there is to it.

RandomViewer · 06-04-2022 09:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891625#Comment_118891625

Don't really care what you do, sent out here to bat for RTE knowing your on a lost cause.

elperello · 06-04-2022 09:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891728#Comment_118891728

Still making stuff up.

Look, it's ok to not like GL but if you want to make it real stick to the truth.

fritzelly · 06-04-2022 10:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891767#Comment_118891767

You have to admit George Lee has become a doom merchant - throughout Covid he was always on about how we were all gonna die and the dire predictions of new strains and so on (not in his remit), now that's finished it's on to global warming and how we are gonna be all swimming with the fishes

RTE always seem to turn to him for the gloom and doom reporting and he seems to wallow in it, even when he speaks its in the most defeatest lack of oxygen way

He really is a ray of sunshine

As for the TD gig - wasn't it a case of he thought he would have a voice at the top table and when he realised he was but bird feed he ran away back to RTE (which IIRC he was literally on a hiatus from the job meaning he could go back any time he wanted as if he never left), maybe the Green Party would have been more suitable for him

elperello · 06-04-2022 10:24PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891825#Comment_118891825

Like I said before it's hard to find the upside of those two stories.

I lost people (friends and extended family) to Covid and didn't even get to bury them.

Easy to make little of it now but it was no fun at the time.

Even now it's still a threat.

I know a woman in her sixties badly knocked out with it at the moment previously very healthy not sure about the outcome.

As for Climate Change, it's not so immediate but the news from the IPCC is very bad.

An existential threat to your grandchildren and their children isn't a great prospect.

Easy to scapegoat GL but a pretty hollow victory.

On the politics you are about right. He got a bit carried away expecting to progress quicker than was realistic.

However I don't believe it was about money as claimed here earlier.

He's an economist and knew the figures before he started and he could have stayed where he was (in RTE) with no risk.

I don't know about the Green Party, I reckon FG could have been a good fit for him but for circumstances.

Cape Clear · 07-04-2022 11:04AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891825#Comment_118891825

Not sure how suited he would be to the green party but maybe the greed party.

RoTelly · 07-04-2022 11:38AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891920#Comment_118891920

I know this is not a covid thread and I do believe that you did have losses (honestly I don't mean to intrude) and perhaps I am lucky over the last 2 years not to know anyone who died of, from, with or because of COVID. Or anyone to have had a major case of COVID for that matter. My Uncle had a bad case at the early part of the pandemic, but he's a fit healthy 80-something farmer. (this was before vaccine role out), he did not attend hospital.

The area that I grew up in would now be an area with high risk people, as the population is now older (many OAPs). The church and the funeral parlour seems as busy with funerals as any other year. I have not heard of any deaths in my local area due to COVID. And funerals are noticeable, because the Church and Funeral Palour are both in the centre of the village. It is now a relatively busy village, but I saw nothing out of the ordinary in terms of death.

I know of one person (relatively close in terms of "in-laws") that died with "covid" and TBH I had many many questions on that death, I think the person died from loneliness and got COVID in the hospital (but such questions can't be asked of, nor should they be put to, the family). Outside of that I know of no-one directly or indirectly to me that as die due to COVID.

The problem you have with George Lee is that he clearly has a political slant and he clearly shows that slant, he did that during his time as Economics Editor and went further by then joining and winning a seat for the main opposition party. RTÉ must be above party politics and must insure that their reports and correspondents know how to put their own views to one side when interviewing their opposite or those that they agree with, if they should monitor this on a weekly basis.

ATR72 · 07-04-2022 12:20PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118891580#Comment_118891580

Celebrities and former politicians do it all the time. Obama bought a house in Nantucket which you would think is an area impacted by rising sea levels.

RoTelly · 07-04-2022 12:27PM

There once was a man from Nantucket

Who died with a bucket.

But his wife, named Michele,

Ran away with a man

And as for the bucket, rising waters of Nantucket.

elperello · 07-04-2022 09:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118893561#Comment_118893561

Point taken we probably should not go into too much detail about Covid.

In fairness I didn't raise the topic and just gave some context to what was being reported at the time (2 years ago) and now.

I think in the first sentence of your final paragraph you meant to say that it's you that has the problem with GL.

I don't recall him being overly partisan before joining FG and he left RTE before running for office.

He also had to undergo a "cleansing period" on his return.

I agree that RTE should be above party politics etc.

landofthetree · 07-04-2022 09:12PM

The lick arsing from RTE when it comes to English teams in the CL is embarrassing.

Sorry Im not paying for that.

political analyst · 10-04-2022 12:14AM

Why is it that RTÉ's live coverage of Gaelic games during this part of the year is referred to in the listings as Saturday GAA Live/Sunday GAA Live and not, as is the case in the summer, The Saturday Game/The Sunday Game? After all, GAA games are GAA games, aren't they?!

fritzelly · 10-04-2022 12:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118905169#Comment_118905169

I may be a little tipsy but what is your point???

Cape Clear · 10-04-2022 02:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118905169#Comment_118905169

Traditionally the Sunday Game covered championship and was marketed as such.

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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore