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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭storker


    The idiocy explanation is certainly plausible, although given the "mushroom" approach to informing the rank at file in that army, I wouldn't surprised if (a) they didn't know the extent of the exclusion zone (i.e. pretty bloody big) and/or (b) they didn't know they were near Chernobyl in the first place.

    Unless the reactor sarcophagus was in plain view and even then...maybe...in which case we're back to stupidity.

    The size of the Chernobyl exclusion zone (shape not correct): 🙂

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    She'd make ISIS uncomfortable with her hatred of the West.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭liamtech


    struggling to prevent my blood from flash boiling into steam -

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    The average Russian conscript was born after Chernobyl and given the Russians perchance for historical revision they may not have been even aware of the danger they were in. I suspect the officers were but I doubt they hunkered down in those contaminated trenches with the grunts.

    It demonstrates the sheer contempt that the higher ups in the Russian leadership have for their people. Where as western doctrine is to train the troops to the max and protect them at all costs.

    It appears that the Russian doctrine is exactly as it was depicted in the "Enemy at the Gates" - "One man picks up the rifle, the other picks up the ammo. When the man with the rifle falls the other picks up the rifle" with a cocked Maxim gun trained on them from behind in case they retreat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭storker


    "Hey lads, check out that power station of there. Pretty impressive! Lucky they didn't send us to that Chernobyl place mamushka keeps talking about, eh? Anyway, this trench isn't going to dig itself..."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,120 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    I am embarrassed that Clare Daly represents this country in Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,503 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Is she on the Kremlin payroll? I seriously suspect she (and a couple of her chums) must have received 'favours' from the Putin regime at some point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,136 ✭✭✭✭briany


    If the broader consensus is that Wallace and Daly are dirtbags, then I doubt they'll be getting many votes at the next EP elections. There must have been something that made them an attractive prospect (or at least more attractive than the competition) to send to Brussels in the first place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,503 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I'm hoping that these tawdry episodes end their political careers. They are an embarrassment to our country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    More likely they went on a Kremlin funded jolly and there is "kompromat" from it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,907 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Boardsie Donald Trump (and presumably he would know😝) reported 'rumours' that the Russians have 'kompromat' on Clare and the bould Mick. To prevent nausea I chose to believe he fabricated said rumours. But if they were true they could explain a lot...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    The foreign media now just as bad as Facebook and Instagram I guess as they are "accomplices" in Bucha:-




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭liamtech


    These TDS and their entire party make me sick to my stomach. They have NO CREDIBILITY what so ever. They are wastes of time. And they are too thick to realize this. Complete and total farce

    CHRIST ITS HARD TO THINK STRAIGHT

    These people consider themselves

    • Socialists (Makes my blood boil)
    • In touch with ordinary working class people (gimme a break)
    • And Anti War

    What they actually are

    • GLORIFIED ACTIVISTS, without even a molecule of intelligence - They blame NATO for a conflict that NATO IS AVOIDING LIKE THE PLAGUE FOR FEAR OF NUCLEAR WAR
    • POPULISTS - These people are cult-ish populists who will follow a perverse 'NATO BAD/ALL ELSE GOOD' policy - they will be UP IN ARMS the next time Israel and Palestine go at it - yet they refuse to applaud a man who is leading his people against a MILITARY INVASION IN THE 21st CENTURY
    • IDEOLOGUES - They are entrenched in their own warped version of socialism - which bares NO RESEMBLANCE TO REAL CREDIBLE LEFT WING POLITICS

    To my Fellow Lefties

    Please - for the love of sanity

    Do not vote for these people again. There are plenty of credible Left Wing alternatives incl Labor, the SocDems, and even SF. I get that you want an end to FFG duopoly - i do too - but DONT WASTE YOUR VOTES ON THESE PEOPLE - they are activists - they sound wonderful giving speeches - but they ACCOMPLISH NOTHING - and in a moment of historical importance, they chose to 'protest' as opposed to applaud -

    Never forget - and punish them by refusing them a preference

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    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    If there are any real, passionate and honourable investigative journalists out there, now is the time to focus all your resources on Clare Daly and her cronies.

    Make her your special project. Surely editors are in a position to finance and resource a deep dive into their operations and activities. It's almost your duty at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    For the record, before I say the following, I support the idea of sanctions on Israel because of Israel's occupation of the West Bank and generally appalling, murderous treatment of the Palestinian people. I also gave PBP a number three vote at the 2020 General Election (Gino Kenny in Dublin Mid-West). Never again. I also do not support Hamas, I think they are a cancer.

    In relation to the PBP clowns and their utter hypocrisy re rejecting sanctions on Russia yet support for them on Israel, it is clear anti-Semitism.

    You cannot hold such a double standard and not expect people to notice. They are an embarrassment both to left wing politics and to the cause of the Palestinian people, who unfortunately have plenty of people within to embarrass the whole cause.

    I would also note that what Mattie McGrath said to Micheál Martin - "you are dancing with the globalists" - is an example of the most vile anti-Semitism.

    "Globalists", especially when said in that tone and judged against McGrath's long record of dog whistle racism and far right Trump style "populism", is clear code for "Jewish world conspiracy".

    These fuckers need to be booted out of the Dáil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    Our government in waiting, SF, have been very quiet during all this. The only thing I remember from them was that they tidied up their servers to remove all the pro-Putin stuff under the pretense that it was slowing things down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,503 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yep, I see them as another Farage or Arron Banks. What exactly is their connection to Russia and why are they defending the Putin regime so aggressively in the middle of a war.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I think that it's time that the Irish people take mep elections a lot more seriously in the future, we are giving these clowns a platform to represent us in Europe and the world and yet they express the exact opposite views of the general consensus of the country they represent, it's an absolute failure of democracy that we have to change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,171 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Same as the officers who lead them:

    It seems Russia has an abundance of 'special' forces.

    A tabloid has claimed that one of the soldiers has died from radiation poisoning, crediting the EPA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    Sadly probably the view of all too many ordinary Russians:-

    Ukraine isn't a country, it's just a piece of land, Poland next...

    FFS, the ordinary citizens of Russian are rightly brainwashed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭threeball


    They have to hang on to their communists ideals somehow. Just shows how any wasters we have in this country that these clowns get elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil




  • Posts: 25,917 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The funny/sad thing is that if Putin wanted he could have 90% of the people who are for wiping Ukraine off the planet change their minds in a week or 2. They can steer things however they like. We saw with the cult in America how quickly people can change their views once they've given up thinking for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭rogber


    Didn't they refuse to condemn the Crimea actions a few years ago? Alas, come the election, as long as they promise free everything, their many supporters, including the wonderful, idealistic and politicised youth of the country, will go out and vote for them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,850 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Algeria has plenty of oil and gas, and is closer to EU than Russia, why not get the energy EU needs from them.

    Diesel there is 0.20c a litre, which again makes no sense considering the price it is here. Algeria is only 150km from Spain



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Orbán told a news conference that earlier on Wednesday he had invited Putin for peace talks in Hungary, to be held with the Ukrainian and French presidents as well as the German chancellor. He said that Putin’s response was “positive” but that the Russian president said this would have conditions. He's also all for blocking sanctions on Russian gas and oil and called it a red line for Hungary.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Maybe, or far more likely that we live in a democracy that functions pretty well, so we get to hear opinions we disagree with, even vehemently disagree with and sometimes those opinions are held by enough people to have politicians voted in. Russians, Belarusians and until not so long ago Ukrainians didn't have that privilege. For many of them they would be afraid of it and don't want it, because they;ve been told they don't. Ukrainians wanted what we have enough to march and get beaten, injured and even murdered in the street to fight for it. If Daly and PBP are the price we currently pay(our ancestors paid far more) for having that privilege it's a bloody cheap price to pay. They irritate the bejesus outa me, but I remember Wallace, Daly, PBP and their ilk are a sign we're doing something right.

    Well, they did get sent off to Brussels so maybe the locals saw that as the best option. 😂

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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