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F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭kksaints


    At this stage particularly with the size of the cars this season, I'd set up Monaco as a sort of a time trial event. The track is clearly unsuited for overtaking and unless reliability issues are more common this year it's a very dull race.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah the size of the cars is a bit catch 22. They need to be the cutting edge of motorsport technology in order to be relevant, but that makes them bigger and totally unsuitable to a place like Monaco.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,021 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    When the qualification is more exciting than the actual race, it's a cart before the horse situation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Monaco is going nowhere. The race crap but that’s not relevant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,183 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Exactly. Monaco is a chance for the rich, yacht owning, white trousers wearing, Euro jet set to get together and show off their wealth. The fact that a bunch of cars are racing around the streets doesn't really matter.

    I wonder however if the residents of Monaco would be happy to not have the race anymore? I imagine it causes some amount of chaos shutting the place down and getting all the stands put up etc. Though they are probably used to it by now.

    Saying all that, I like watching Monaco. I like seeing the same camera angles and shots that were used 40 years ago, not much has changed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,993 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    It takes 6 months of the year for Monaco to build up then remove the GP facilities.

    It's not so much chaos as having learned to live with it pretty much continuously.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,898 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Monaco was always a very hard place to pass but with the new cars it will be slightly harder. It might be possible to widen the course in a few places and this probably should have been done long before now.

    I do like knowing the course probably better than any other but as a race, it is one of the most boring really, which is a real pity. One of the most iconic but as a racing spectacle, it fails to deliver too often I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,419 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Just the bare 4 DRS zones in Melbourne this time...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭quokula


    4 zones sounds like a lot but then Melbourne is usually a very poor track for overtaking. Between the track changes, the new cars and the DRS zones it could be an interesting race.

    For all the moaning about Monaco, the pole sitter has only won 2 of the last 6 races there and it often throws up interesting races. Yes you don’t get much overtaking but you can still get good racing. Mistakes really get punished and drivers have to be absolutely perfect, which means unpredictable things can happen and you often see the competitive order shaken up a little as the track is a little bit of a car leveller and drivers can shine.

    Last year we saw Vettel in the Aston Martin overtake Hamilton in the Mercedes and stay ahead - that wouldn’t happen at other tracks where the driver has less influence and the faster car could just blast past on the straight.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,289 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Seems odd the DRS shoud give you have advantage on two different straights though - I wouldn't mind if it was a case you could only use DRS in one of the two upcoming sections, but being able to use it once to overtake and a second time to pull away (potentially) seems like utter BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Albert Park is a street circuit with really poor overtaking. They've redone some corners and now they're fiddling with DRS to crea

    Te overtaking opportunities. Can't fault the effort. It's just not a good track for racing. Great Decision to move it from the first race of the year. It used to be a massive disappointment after waiting for the season to start, then you'd have to wait another 2 weeks for the season to really start.

    Hopefully these changes will make it a good race. Fair play for trying something new to make it work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭BikeRacer


    It's 3 of the last 6, you can't count Leclerc last year as he didn't start. Max started the race on pole and finished 1st.

    And there was no overtake, Vettel came into the pits for an overcut and came out ahead of Gasly and Hamilton, which actually strengthens the argument that there's very little overtaking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭quokula


    It doesn’t strengthen the argument that there isn’t good racing though. Number of times faster cars fly by on a straight thanks to DRS is not a metric for a great race. Sometimes a driver pushing to the absolute limit against the walls in a slower car on their in lap so they can squeeze ahead of the faster car and keep them behind is just as exciting if not more so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭BikeRacer


    I don't care tbh, just highlighting what you made up in your own head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,304 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    There should be a Grand Prix in Summer Bay, with Alf Stewart waving the chequered flag.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,206 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Vettel should be well motivated to go this weekend after missing two races of his own choice or because of Covid whatever you want to believe.

    I can not wait to see if he can get more out of the car than Stroll and Hulkenberg.

    I seen somewhere someone saying poor Vettel out of one Tractor and into another but I have seen people say he will lift the team and help then to get ahead. They seem to have the same purposing problem as Mercedes.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    What's this about Vettel missing the races by choice?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,206 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Some people say he choose not to go to the race in Saudi Arabia as he was against F1 going there. He just used Covid as an excuse because Aramco sponser Aston Martin F1 team.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I wouldn't have any time for that. Why miss the other race too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,304 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,206 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    He missed the first race because of Covid which he had a positive test on the Thursday before and then he missed race two because of Covid as well.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,685 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ah yeah. I'm asking what the people who think he skipped the Saudi race would say. Like whatever about missing the Saudi race, why would he skip the other race too?

    To be fair, I didn't hear anyone propose that conspiracy theory in earnest



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The team he drives for have Aramco sponsorship don't they?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,075 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Sebastian Vettel tested positive for Covid 19 shortly before The Bahrain Grand Prix. He then failed to produce the required amount of negative PCR tests to be permitted into the Saudi Arabia paddock. This has been verified by the independent testing company employed by the FIA. He didn’t come down with "Blue flu".

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Exactly.

    If he skipped the Saudi race because of some sort of protest, he will be pissed off when he sees the Aramco stickers on his helmet and car!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,289 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    also not much of a protest if you say you missed the race cause you had covid.



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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I happen to think if Seb was there then at the least the meeting to convince the drivers to go ahead would have lasted a good bit longer. Whether it would have changed the outcome is another thing. I'm very disappointed in all the drivers tbh.



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