Ukraine (Mod Note & Threadbanned Users in OP)

Er Hungary is our EU partner. *We're* in a political union with Hungary.

At least they made an effort.

I think the idea that it's just Putin's fault is beyond simplistic at this point. Soldiers can conduct a war (even one of aggression) without killing, raping and murdering civilians en masse. Decent human beings don't carry out genocide and civilised people have long since recognised that "following orders" is no excuse for war crimes. Ordinary Russians are allowing Ukranians to be butchered because they're either complicit in this genocide by their support for United Russia or their failure to revolt.

Right so, here are two of your posts. In one you claim (in somewhat plain english) that Ireland is your country. In another, you claim Russia invaded your country not so long ago - As Ireland has never been invaded by Russia - these two statements are mutually exclusive

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Simple Logical analysis concludes - You are a liar, who cannot even keep his lies straight

Frankly i do not care where you come from? It doesnt interest me at all. What is interesting to me (in a profoundly negative way) - Is what you are posting in general.

You are engaged in 'Post Truth-ing' here

• You are taking verified facts (truths which line up with several different sources; satellite images, reports from the ground, eye witnesses, videos) - and you are distorting them. Very basic epistemological reasoning demonstrates what happened in Bucha - yet you have decided to refute these facts. Its utter nonsense. If you truly believe your own nonsense then you are deluded. If you dont, and are merely 'offering a different explanation'- then your behavior is even more appalling
• As demonstrated above, you cannot even line up your own statements. This alone demonstrates that you are disingenuous
• In describing the Russian Invasion of Ukraine as a 'civil war', you are buying into clear (and easily disproven) Russian propaganda. You disgrace yourself by doing so. There is no merit what so ever to this line of reasoning.
• You convince no one -

There is very little to say on this. I actually hope that you are deliberately lying. The alternative is pure delusion -

Should have been dealt with long ago and it would have been only for they have a "partner in crime" in Poland. It's firmly set on road to becoming a dictatorship now I think after their election result.

The general "assume the best of people" approach of those who constructed the current architecture of the EU (and "let's not rock the boat with Hungary/Poland" attitude of leaders in other member states) could bite now in a real crisis. What I've read of speeches of Orbán post election where he is completely revealing himself & his opinion now he's fully secure (castigating Zelenskyy, attacking the sanctions on Russia, and the EU generally of course) may not bode well for trying to impose more sanctions or even ensure Orbánistan will actually adhere to the existing ones IMO.

Yeah, it is definitely not a normal situation and it sets no "precedents" whatsoever IMO. So do not fret, growleaves!

There's an economic war now on between us in the EU (incl. Germany) and Russia. Eventually I think all the Russian assets in the West (EU/US) will be sold off or expropriated but it will be a slow outworking (the rule of law and separation of powers + independence of business from the state frameworks we live under vs just a word to the wise from Father Putin in someone's ear for same process occuring in Russia).

Fair play - Its factually accurate - If people wish to continue to deny the reality of this situation - then they are doing one of the following

• Willfully spreading disinformation on behalf of Russia (either because they are paid to, or because they have chosen the role of 'useful idiot')
• 'Post Truth-ing' the massacre (which is now sadly common thanks to Info-wars and Qanon adjacent type nonsense)
• Trolling

You cannot argue with evidence - all you can do is willingly decide to ignore it. If you do this, IMHO you are no longer worth taking seriously

I believe what Putin and his KGB style ruling elite have done in turning ordinary Russians into apologists for the invasion of Ukraine and inhuman treatment of Ukrainians is similar to what Hitler and the Nazis did to Jewish people and the people of Poland. The German people wers complicit in this, just as are the Russians with regard to Ukraine.

Putin has been careful to fully dehumanise Ukrainians by making them out to be the enemies of Russia and evil Nazis who can't be trusted. And sadly many Russians and the Russian military seem to have happily lapped this up. Russian troops apparently view the Ukrainian military as Nazis and ordinary Ukrainian people as Nazi supporters and therefore in their warped perception "legitimate" targets for inhuman treatment. This propaganda has been repeated non stop on Russian media at the direction and behest of Russia's arch criminal Oligarch. Theres one way and only one way to stop this. Putin like Hitler must be defeated and removed from power. Whether like Hitler, Putin does the right thing and takes himself out or someone does it for him is largely irrelevant tbh.

Orban is just a pound shop Merkel as far as the Kremlin concerned.