Russia - threadbanned users in OP

What/who/where were they targeting with the artillery? I don't know anything specifically about the artillery or the damage. Indiscriminate fire could certainly be considered genocidal, a war-time hate-crime.

Again, both sidesing.

Your logic is: those who hate the regime and the people (and their supporters) who are carrying out a genocide against an entirely innocent people are thus themselves as bad as the genociders.

You demand forgiveness and understanding for the genociders. Hey, see it from their side.

If you cannot see the utter stupidity of this position, I can't help you.

Thanks for the condescension, by the way. You have little to be condescending about.

Off to the scrappers?

I'm surprised they would be recovering damaged equipment (because all evidence so far shows everything damaged abandoned?) perhaps ones that broke down before they made it into the field?

How is genocide/war crimes going to be proved? Video evidence? Pathology? Eyewitnesses? Confessions?

Seeing these Russian atrocities carried out against Ukrainian civilians will enrage the Ukrainian military and it will have the knock on effect of them doing atrocities on Russian military. This will in turn lead the Russians to act more aggressive on Ukrainian prisoners and civilians. This war is going to get a whole lot more bloody and disgusting then sadly it already is. Only thing is people should not be surprised by this sadly, sadly as a people we haven't evolved to not be cruel to other human beings. War brings out the beast in good people and they do the most horrendous things to people and you have the most horrible people who in war time can enact the worse possible things on people. This has always been the case throughout history and is still the same today and probably in 100 years time when people who are alive after us will be saying the same thing about some other conflict in the world they can't believe what people can do during a war to fellow people. It's disgusting and should be a thing of the past but sadly it's just something that has happened since war has been a part of the human race and sadly so sadly will happen again when we're all dead and gone.

Not trying to excuse, condone or any " other" . The Russian army has been taking a right pasting so far in the war in Ukraine. Burned out tanks, APC's etc, are common sight, as are the bodies of Russian soldiers. These are all pretty gruesome sights, and all the more so to their friends and comrades. ( not to mention their Families) but all the time the pressure is growing, and then it explodes, and the result is a killing spree like we have seen in Bucha. Bucha holds bad memories for the Russians, it was one of the places where the advance on Kyiv was stopped dead in its tracks, elite units and all. The street's were littered with with Russian military hardware, a complete column of armored vehicles gutted. And of course, many dead or injured. But it was also a huge "Loss of Face" and humiliating experience for supposedly one of the finest combat units in the Russian Army, the Airborne Paratroopers. And now it seems this atrocity is their revenge.

Yes, I think the fact that their advance on Kyiv ended in humiliating defeat and a rapid withdrawal was a big factor. They decided to trash the place on the way out and kill as many civilians as possible.

It was an area controlled by the Russians for several weeks. When the Russians fled those arriving within around 24 hours discovered fresh corpses on the streets, backyards and down in basements. I presume any killed during the occupation and buried will be exhumed and examined to determine cause of death. Witnesses will also provide statements. I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians start bombing the area to hinder investigations. Also, I believe the investigations will be carried out by several bodies, the Ukrainian prosecutors, possibly ICC investigators and others.

get putin round for peace talks and poison the bag of scum. He deserves a slow agonising death.

Which neatly avoids the claims that Russia brought mobile crematoria and thousands of body-bags for a military action which was only supposed to take some two or three weeks maximum. Or the detailed instructions on how to dig mass graves.

And also avoids the claims of people going missing in various other areas of Ukraine where there was very little or no resistance like Kherson and Melitopol.

It's also avoiding the fact that Russia has been gunning down civilians since day 1; this is not something that happened only as they started the pull out of Kyiv.

So I don't even buy that they had the excuse of being defeated and feeling like "taking revenge": this was pre-meditated and systemic beyond the level of the ordinary grunt, beyond the level of those kinds of possible mitigating factors. It seems clear to me they were either given tactit permission or explicit instruction to conduct themselves in this manner; and we have seen evidence of this all over Ukraine.

Well, whatever about dogs, they seem to like to rape and murder little children. When not tick-tocking, of course.

https://mobile.twitter.com/expatua/status/1510650237429370892?t=bKJNopz-3-tyYqRiWIzoJg&s=19

The above is not verified yet the reports of other little girls who have been raped makes it a believable case. What else but to wish the scum the very same fate? I do, with all my heart.