Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

COVID; the virus so deadly you need a test to know you are infected.

From what I've been told, people are wearing them intermittently now. But this misses the point. The consistent lower rate of infection prior to basically now is its own proof of how effective masks stop covid spread. The graph you posted shows that. The concept isn't to stop everyone being infected but to stop excessive measures on society. Like much of the last 2 years where a huge number of civil liberties were violated. These takes on masks are so myopic.

It must be pointed out that anyone who questioned the way over the top narrative re Covid was immediately labelled as a ‘far right conspiracy theorist’. Any suggestion of deviation from policy and this label was regularly rolled out on this thread. Any attempt at debate, any discussion on healthcare resource capacity increase and reopening more and you were a killer who was selfish and thinking of only themselves.

And let’s not forget the TD’s posting videos of ‘young people’ gathering outdoors during the summer months on social media as a way to whip up anger against a section of society. This scapegoating by government and media then continued to include various other sections of society and even found it’s way to refugees in direct provision in the end.

The vaccine pass became the way these extremists wanted to reopen - with a feeling of self superiority, discrimination, and signing the population up to a no vaccine, no rights scenario indefinitely.

You must also acknowledge that while the vaccine prevents serious illness and death in many people, it was sold as a vaccine that stopped transmission at the start, it was then a two shot vaccine, now a 3/4/5 shot? The vaccine companies themselves have not done a good job at keeping people confident in their product by announcing ‘waning protection’ no sooner than the latest shot is in one’s arm. Not to mention, there has been not one discussion re side effects, not one interview anywhere in the media re adverse events. While many don’t get them, they do occur & should be acknowledged. Vaccine company’s indemnity continues & the Government and ourselves will ultimately have to pay the cost one day. It at least should be addressed in the media to some degree, both for the victims and their families, and the Irish public.

I'm self isolating since positive antigen on Tuesday, all I've had is the sniffles for a couple of days & I'm under 55.

I had a confirmation PCR on Wed just in case I needed it for future travel etc.

Now where do I stand under Leo's new rules, I'm planning another antigen this evening, work want me back in by Monday, I'm confused.

Leo's new guidelines is a pack of balls.

If you're under 55 with symptoms you don't need to test but one must isolate until 2 days past symptoms.

(Nobody is going to do this with a cold by the way).

If you're over 55 or have a medical condition you can test with symptoms and you must isolate for 7 days.

I presume the isolation guidelines for this group is to prevent the spread of the virus to others. Where is his evidence that it's over 55s and those with medical conditios that are the main spreaders of the virus and must now follow isolation for up to 7 days upon symptoms? Can he expand on medical conditions? What medical conditions does someone need to have to testing and isolation?

Talk about a load of confusing nonsense. I think in the states if you're boosted isolation can end in 5 days. Can Ireland not streamline these health guidelines into something similar? Like a one size fits all approach. Like if you have new symptoms, isolate for 5 days.

Edit : I had posted a reply but going through the HSE site it has 2 contradictions so who knows anymore.

1 part of the HSE site says don't need tests, another part of it does and tells you isolate 7 days from symptoms, exit at day 7 if symptom free for 24hrs.

See what your antigen comes back with, have you still symptoms?

Took another antigen there now & still positive.

No symptoms though, family still all negative.

Over 55s ...superspreaders 😁 !

Not at all. Just to know if you'll infect others..

Could it be that most people don't give a sxxx about side effects because having had the disease most would say that the vaccine is less of a problem than you or others here make it out to be ?

And who knew that this virus would be still trying to out manouevre vaccines at this stage ...give us a break ! It was never sold as stopping transmission, only reducing severe disease .

It's all a learning curve for everyone about Covid . Including you .

Yes. Was saying the same last night . Completely contradictory and confusing .

Should not make a difference age wise about isolation just whether symptomatic or not .

I think the medical conditions are those highrisk for Covid .

But I think the point is not whether you are high risk for disease but whether you will spread it or not .