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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,498 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Herd of sheep? Of course I've heard of sheep. 🙂

    They're fairly effective. Not sure how they'd manage on tillage land, would probably have to turn it over to grass for the first year. And how would you seed that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    But why not have the transponder on?

    They've just flown out again. Same Bel Air helicopter, 20 minutes into the flight over what seems ro be open sea, and the transponder is switched off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I think they are priming the Russian people to acccept the use of WMDs. First they/we were told via state media (Dmitri Peskov) that Nuclear weapons would only be used if the very existence of Russia was facing an existential threat. Now they have rolled out another hawk who has been saying not achieving subjugation of Ukraine would amount to a defeat of Russia and threatens it's very existence - the existential threat Peskov said would be a trigger for a nuclear response.

    If that's not a one, two setup to justify a nuclear knockout, what is it?

    "Russian state television has broadcast an extraordinary rant about the state of the war in Ukraine, warning Vladimir Putin’s regime faces “final and complete defeat”.

    Yakov Kedmi, an Israeli-Russian pundit and former diplomat, is usually a reliably pro-Kremlin voice. But in an appearance on the prime time show Tonight with Vladimir Soloviyev, he was remarkably negative about the situation in Ukraine.

    Mr Kedmi said Russia could not afford to compromise on the initial goal of its invasion, which was to take major Ukrainian cities, including the capital Kyiv, and overthrow the government.

    In his view, anything less than that – including any potential peace deal – would count as a humiliating loss.

    “Whatever treaty Russia may sign with the current Ukrainian regime will mean the defeat of Russia. Final and complete defeat,” he said."

    ...

    “This treaty may be the beginning of the end of the Russian state. Because if you failed with Ukraine, how do you threaten NATO? How do you threaten the United States? You could not deal with Zelensky, so what are you?

    “You have a choice: either you win this operation or start the final countdown.”




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭mikewest




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,498 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Maybe Al, they reckon they're safer with the transponder off? Russia might be reliant on using FR24 to identify bogies Al. With the transponder off they're effectively invisible, Al.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I'm not sure it's unusual , especially since Russia doesn't like foreign aircraft in their airspace turning off transponders is a dangerous game in the region



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    That's actually scary stuff. Surely he realises that "threatening the United States and NATO" would probably result in the destruction of Russia?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    And given the username, we can safely assume you are the authority on the subject!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,184 ✭✭✭Polar101


    What would Ukraine gain by bombing Russia(n civilians)? There's plenty of Russian targets within in the country's borders already. People thinking civilians (Russians included) shouldn't be murdered isn't exactly the same as crying for Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,226 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    They are citizens of an aggressor, an enemy.

    Wars have long moved away from the idea that only combatants could or should be in the firing line, if that ever really was a thing in the first place because as sure as hell civilians often bore the burnt of war down through the ages.

    Jaysus it is a good thing that a lot of people around here did not exist around the early 1940s as otherwise there would have been no bombing of Germany lest some civilians get hurt.

    When you are at war with a country, you are not just at war with the military of that country, the government of that country, but everyone and anyone that could offer support to that government and military.

    If you start the mullarkey about letting people off because they may not be willingly fighting you, you are going to end up defeated and probably very dead.

    And if anyone thinks that most Ukrainians, especially those that lived through their cities, towns and villages being destroyed would not like to see Moscow, St Petersburg get what they have been getting they are fooking deluded.

    I am not allowed discuss …



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Its war, not murder,

    Why is bombing Ukraine one thing but bombing Russia is murder..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Poster is fearmongering using hypothetical missiles raining down on russian cities as prelude to his own fantasies of Russians using "WMDs".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Looks like to the UK won't be going to part of any security guarantees for Ukraine




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,226 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    That looks like they want to attract storks to nest on the roofs of the vehicles.

    That has to be p**s take because they aint hiding much from the ground nevermind the air.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    It isn't ok to kill Russian civilians because of the atrocities committed by Russian forces.

    On the other hand it's ridiculous that rules should be adhered to when dealing with Putin, his regime, and his army.

    Suppose the "West" had Putin assassinated, either remotely or by proxy, possibly even by arrangement - who would care?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Well it had me convinced, but then again, I often mistake cars for reindeers at Christmas time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,226 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Fooks sake looking at some of the posts here one might actually believe that the soldiers on the battlefields shouldn't be killed because after all most of them don't want to be there, are actually being forced and that the Russian population should not be seen as the enemy because they are all against the war.

    There appears to be this widespread belief that almost the entire Russian population are anti war, but just too afraid to say or do anything.

    Oh and nobody in Russia wants Putin never mind this war.

    That is delusion. Putin has a support base, there are a lot of Russians who dream of returning glory to their country.

    And there are some so entrenched that much like the Germans they will only change their minds when they are faced with utter devastation.

    Putin is another in the long line of Russian/Soviet strong men and for some unknown reason Russians seem to tolerate if not actually like these guys.

    Hell Stalin is still fooking revered by some. STALIN FFS.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh geez, we surely wouldn't want questions asked about whether an action by the Ukrainians was "legitimate".

    **** that. We can all be high-minded and give a **** about international law when we want but fighting the "right" fight still means losing the peace. Russia have wiped a city off the face of the earth, they've shelled nuclear plants, they've killed thousands of civilians and caused millions to flee. Acting the way a country is meant to would mean Ukraine winning with their country absolutely decimated while the drug addict hookers (yup! 🤣) scurry back over the border.

    Again. **** that. Russia have to pay in any way possible. I don't believe the Ukrainians have the firepower to do anything to make me think they were over reacting. That video of a POW being shot? **** him and **** his family. Actually, he would and all for a coupla roubles, just like being home at the barracks. My objection to that video was that someone was stupid enough to make it. Ukraine are still defending themselves and as far as I'm concerned attacking an invader is always fine. Torturing a prisoner? Nah, don't do it and ffs don't record when one tool does it.

    **** Russia, **** their (literal) whore soldiers, **** their commanders, **** Crimea, **** Putin and **** being "good". If I'm on the ground getting beaten up and can do nothing else I'll bite and gouge. Behaviours I usually find fairly contemptable, but needs must. Ukraine is still being destroyed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,777 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    China, India, Iran, North Korea, most of the Russian intelligence services/military/parliament and people would all care.

    And sure if its fair game to assassinate a Russian world leader, then its obviously fair game for them to retaliate. Biden perhaps? Von der leyen? Good old Boris?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    This sounds quite plausible. It may be that the disciples are too afraid to tell Putin the truth and are giving him a rosy picture of how the war is going:




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Why would they care?

    Dangerous psychopath gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭whatchagonnado


    20,000 dead... Another reason why anyone with a mindset like Boris, Trump, Putin, Erdogan etc should have their heads removed the moment they utter something that sounds like it might lead to aggressive action. If we get it wrong a couple of times, so be it, better than that alternative. And it might start to make those wanting to be a hard-man reconsider. How can we let this stuff carry-on and on and on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    He's going to find out May the 9th when the whole parade is going to consist of WW2 Vehicles 😉



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What Putin wants in Ukraine,not Russia,is full control of the country with a puppet president and goverment,so he can continue expanding his new soviet union.

    And Ukraine can never be neutral without security guarantees after this.

    And peacekeepers will not happen,lol,you think anyone wants russian «peacekeepers» after they invaded Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine now in 2022.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,028 ✭✭✭circadian




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,028 ✭✭✭circadian


    More like a bunch of old Ladas with mounted rifles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,028 ✭✭✭circadian


    It wouldn't surprise me considering there's been a lot of chatter about supplies and fuel being sold on the black market over the years, resulting in this awful performance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Bombing Russian civilians is a bad idea for lots of reasons and it cannot be compared to the bombing of German cities where bombing made a difference to the war effort. There are too many Russians to bomb so you won't degrade their war effort by getting rid of 10 million of them. They'll be replaced immediately. It is a pointless exercise from a military point of view. Even the bombing of Ukrainian civilians is pointless because they won't surrender.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There appears to have been a major failure of intelligence. They underestimated the Ukrainians to a great degree (probably through their inherent arrogance and racism towards their neighbours) and overestimated the Russian capabilities, not realising their own army was second rate and not fit for purpose.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,046 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No, it would be just like Russia to keep back their latest tech just for the parade...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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