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Academy Awards (Oscars 2022)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    That’s not a punch it was an open handed slap, big difference



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭The Phantom Pain


    Sure. Right after they do the same for Harvey Weinstein...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    It wasn’t “professional”. He reacted just like many others would. With bewilderment.

    Unless you mean by “professional” that he didn’t cry like a big girl? In which case the. He did react well.

    I think if Will Smith had slapped me in the face (even that feeble slap) that I would cry. More from the thought Smith was cross at me than a physical pain - which obviously there wouldn’t be any.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I don't care what they said on Oprah, deep down, no man is ok with another dude ploughing his wife.

    He totally got bounced into that and it shows on his face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    I think this is it.

    His actions were massively misguided though. Ironically, putting him up for a different level or ridicule, of his own doing.


    I'm seeing cries for "cancel him". He's acted a fool on a very big stage, he was in th wrong (regardless of whether you believe Chris Rock was or not). It hardly warrants "cancellation" FFS. It might just change some perceptions on him within the industry though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    Apple are not happy about this.

    Distracting everyone from their film CODA being the big winner.

    Marty Whelan was talking about CODA this morning. I don’t think he mentioned the slap. Class act that lad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭The Phantom Pain


    Yes, after the reporter sexually assaulted him - very satisfying to watch. Terry Cruz could learn a thing or two about not holding back due to the pathetic need for white approval.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    Will Smuth was sexually assaulted at an event?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,513 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Amy Schumer tempted fate by joking at the opening bit that this year's In Memoriam now contained the Golden Globes.

    The Oscars can definitely now add itself to its own dead list.

    And I say fair dues to Will Smith, if he hadn't belted Rock, everyone would be talking about how absolutely terrible the whole show was. Now they don't have to.

    I wonder where we'd be if Big Willie had hit a white comedian. He certainly wouldn't have hit a woman.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,692 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It would have been equally as bad if he'd hit a white comedian. Unless it was Ricky Gervais, in which case it would have been hilarious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Not sure that meets the bar of sexual assault tbh. Reporter was a dolt though.

    He be slap happy. Not quite up to the Hollywood gold standard of Burt Reynolds but he's getting there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    CODA was a lovely, easy-to-watch movie. But stunned it won best picture.

    They really did a great job wih casting, because I think without it, it would have slipped through as some standard daytime TV movie.

    The cast elevated it to that higher level. Troy Kotsur comfortably deserved his award (although didn't see Being The Ricardos).


    Good haul of awards for Dune, I'll finally have to watch it. Only held off because I read some reviews suggesting it was esentially a prologue to future movies. But, there's no other obvious reason I wouldn't watch it, Denis Villeneuve is yet to put a foot wrong in my book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    bad in what way, the only way Chris rock can be funny is by trying to humiliate someone, and picked on a woman with a medical condition. Good on Will Smith, he gave him an open handed slap i've seen many a mother dish out to bold kids. IF he wanted to hurt him he could have, no problem. I'd love someone to do it to jimmy carr or james corden next



  • Posts: 14,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Watched PR guru Terry Prone on Ireland Am this morning, she made some very good points. She reckoned there will be NO repercussions for Will Smith. Rock is a twat, he mocked an actress with a well publicised condition and her husband bitch slapped him. She reckoned if anything, there will be support for Smith, publicity for the Oscars, and more attention for alopecia. Just watched a clip from Richard Maddely who said of all the celebrities he has interviewed since 1972, he is on record before this saying Rock was the most ignorant, rude, aggressive one. The interview had to be so heavily edited that it was only 2-3 minutes when broadcast.

    Im a bigger Smith fan now than I was before, if they started taking Oscars off celebs who behaved badly, there would be a lot of those golden door stops in a box.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    Hilarious how alopecia is being used as the trigger for this reaction from the smiths.

    How many people are familiar with the background of their marriage? She 110% wears the trousers, was probably set to be the bigger star when they got together, but the power/fame shift in their relationship has dramatically changed over the years and it's clearly rankled with her.

    She's a Z Lister to his A Lister but I'd say she is an absolute massive presence in their house. It's like someone with a huge ego playing second fiddle to someone whose sole purpose was to run around pleasing the former.

    The trigger to this incident for Pinkett wasn't alopecia, it was the fact Chris Rock (who knows her true form) has aimed a few barbs at her in the past and for this one she happened to be in attendance. The joke came in the context of speaking about another Hollywood couple Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz, mentioning they were both nominated. To keep his wife happy, Rock said Bardem was praying Smith would win the best actor category in case Cruz missed out on best actress.

    Pinkett was portrayed as the odd one out (reference to GI Jane2 was more a poke at her failed career as much as her hairdo) and it was her bruised ego that sparked the reaction.

    It's a fascinating insight into their home life/relationship, it was 100% seeing her reaction that made him spring into action, he simply had to act or else things would be difficult for him on home front. Mad to think that kind of spousal pressure can cause a husband/wife to act so irrationally in order to keep the peace.

    He basically chose to make an absolute holy show of himself in order to try and please his wife. Very very unhealthy set up. You can see Smith is an angry guy, a lot of pent up anger, probably a couple that should have divorced but stuck at it via willpower rather than love.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    I hadn't heard of theirs before. Was that person trying to make a name a for themselves? He seemed more concerned about people seeing it.

    Someone earlier said Smith slapped the guy. Another piece of melodrama - Smith barely tapped him and you can see clearly that Smuth wasn’t lashing out in anger.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    Is there a comedian who also has the name Ricky Gervais?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    When Will Smith sat down and started swearing, Rock should have said "it was only a joke, keep your hair on!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    You need to watch that clip again.

    Smith isn’t angry at all as he walks away.

    A lot of people are seeing things in that clip that are not there.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,617 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Think what you will about the Smiths' marriage/relationship and what they've said publicly about it, but it's preposterous to blame Jada Pinkett Smith for a thing her husband did of his own volition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    I think it's clear that Smith is upset at what's happened in his marriage, has probably been forced to go along with this "open marriage" BS while trying to repair it - half out of fear of breaking up with someone he loves, half out of guidance from the Smith PR team - and all this has been simmering beneath the surface.

    It's likely he's been putting up with it because he doesn't want to lose her, and when he saw how upset she was at Rock's joke last night, he probably panicked and thought "I'll confront him and she'll be impressed". I can guarantee those 10-15 seconds it took him to walk up to Rock were the longest of his life with all the thoughts going through his head.

    All the same, it's no excuse.



  • Posts: 14,708 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Crikey, are you blaming her for this? That is a unique perspective. The loss of hair due to alopecia is devastating, a close male friend suffered it and he has never been the same person personality wise since, I can only imagine what it must be like for a woman. The GI Jane reference was about her hair, no doubt about that, if you want confirmation, google the film. Will Smith was a megastar when they met, a glance at his film bio at to 1997 when they married will tell you what you need to know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭The Phantom Pain


    Whether you think it meets the bar or not is irrelevant. The pervert tried to kiss Will Smith aggressively and on the mouth without his consent and got clapped.

    I'm glad people are traumatised by what they saw last night and I hope it serves as a reminder that black people you don't know are not to be trifled with. We have nothing to lose. You can pull that shite online or over the phone but face to face don't even dare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Black people are not to be trifled with?

    What's going on here?

    *Backs away slowly*



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    I think it's clear he was "angry" when he sat back down.

    Whether it's real anger, or faux anger to appease the wife, that's another story



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    Some men are completely into their wife getting “ploughed” by another man. They even like to watch.

    Same for a wife wanting to see her husband with another woman.

    There is all sorts out there.

    I’m not saying Smith is one. Just pointing out these people exist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Useless Lump


    So you are saying there is doubt about whether the anger is real or not?

    So why have you called Smith an “angry man” with “pent up anger”?

    It can’t be both those things.

    EDIT: Also when he starts shouting, how do you know he is angry? He is an actor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    What do you mean exactly by the black people comment ? what difference does his skin colour have to do with anything ?



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