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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Here's an aircraft to keep an eye on. It's a Tu-214ON. To the casual observer it looks like the usual TU-214 airliner/cargo variant, but its not. From Wiki:

    The Tu-214ON is an observation version of the Tu-204-200, equipped for Treaty on Open Skies missions and built by Kazan Aircraft Production AssociationVega Radio Engineering Corporation was contracted for the development of airborne surveillance system, ground-based complex and other mission equipment for the aircraft. It is equipped with one A-84ON panoramic camera, one AK-111 topographic camera and two perspective AK-112 digital aerial cameras to capture high-resolution aerial photography.[22

    It will be interesting to see its operations over the next few days. Its currently leaving Crimea. It is also powered by Rolls Royce engines, which the Russians may swap out for their own bypass variants.

    Screenshot_20220325-145223_Flightradar24.jpg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    TBH his country is under attack from an aggressive foe who is deliberately attacking and killing civilians I wouldn't blame him for those outbursts. As you say we don't have the military to give them any real help from the fighting side. We do have arms that they are using to good effect against the invaders and I believe we should pass those arms onto the Ukrainians who are in effect fighting for Europe here.

    Our main job in Ireland is to provide a safe haven for the families of those who are fighting and I am proud to say we are stepping up to the mark on this. Personally we've offered a room in our home so I'm fully prepared to back my words up with actions.

    I would say most people would understand the circumstances these comments were made in and also that the media have probably hyped them up a bit to sell papers or get clicks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,633 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Russia will be isolated from the west for the next few decades for sure, but Ukraine too will be utterly ruined. Their economy was largely based on low-value stuff like agriculture exports (wheat) and minerals, and most of their factories are now bombed to crap.

    So many of their women and children have fled which will leave them with an even worse demographic crisis than they had pre-war. And this all gets worse as the war is prolonged and more and more people flee.

    As for territory, Russia wont hold on to anything west of Dnieper but Ukraine wont be able to retake much of the land already taken either Melitopol, Mariupol, Berdyansk, half of Kherson will stay under Russian control unless the Russians voluntarily pull out in exchange for some Ukrainian compromises (neutrality/non-NATO etc)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,812 ✭✭✭✭josip


    He's only saying that because it's 14 degrees today in Latvia 🙂

    https://www.accuweather.com/en/lv/riga/225780/weather-forecast/225780

    Wait until tomorrow when it's back down to 6 degrees for another few weeks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Ultimately we as a country should provide humanitarian support because it is the right and moral thing to do. Not for thanks or gratitude.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    The EU and US can help build Ukraine. Whereas I think with Russia it is in our interests to make sure they would find it very difficult to do something like this again. Before anyone says anything I don't mean like Germany after WW1, not punishing reparations, occupying the Saarland, disassembling and carting off factories etc. No, simply discourage/prevent FDI from western countries, make it difficult for them to get certain advanced tech, encourage a brain drain by granting visas to younger highly educated people, particularly women. This will speed up their demographic problem. Russia/USSR was pretty good with heavy industry, but this war shows that producing large amounts of steel to assemble tanks is very 20C. Russia will struggle in the new era of smart weapons and I really don't see that changing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    I wouldn't expect them to end up with Crimea even after the war but their forces will be faced with a predicament if they somehow manage to cross the Dnieper at Kherson and push back that far. I really hope they somehow push as far as Crimea at least but maybe not into it. They need to get across the river and cut that land bridge to weaken the Russian's negotiating hand. That's why Mariupol holding out as long as it has has really helped the overall effort.


    Crimea hasn't seen as much bloodshed and so opinions in that area have been slowly getting the old Ruskie propaganda on 11 since 2014. An officially recognised referendum for that area should be part of the negotiations. I think it might still align with Russia. The eastern regions might be slightly regretting aligning with Russia though but sure let them have a referendum too. If that's their want then Ukraine is better off rid of such areas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,735 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    I’d say a lot of East Europeans are as perplexed by our aversion to NATO as they are perplexed by britains aversion to the EU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,099 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    If it's politically unpalatable to give weapons to Ukraine, let's just donate to Britain to cover whatever they're sending over to Ukraine. Alternatively, let's just sell them to some other intermediary and whoopsiedoodles if they just somehow managed to end up on some truck going over the Polish/Ukraine border.

    It's not like any of this even matters to Russia. They made that clear when they staged their naval "exercises" off our coast and stuck us on the list of "unfriendly" countries. They're not complete idiots, they know our neutrality is a sham with no legal basis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Another senior officer dead this time around the hands of his own men 🤣🤣🤣




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Wow, amazing if true. If it is will this spark a domino affect, will we see mutiny's? If so then a coup is surly just around the corner



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Russias objectives in Ukraine has officially changed,no more denazification or demilitarization and regime change and liberation of the whole of Ukraine ,now it's only the liberation of the Donbas region


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    A lot of higher ups are being killed. A lot. The theory from me was that they were getting whacked by the FSB for not following instructions. Maybe they are getting killed by "friendly fire".



  • Posts: 5,121 [Deleted User]


    the scale of this miscalculation by Putin is just staggering



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    This idea that the only thing Ukraine needs or wants is weapons is clearly ridiculous; and in particular the weapons and quantities that Ireland can provide.

    There are tens of thousands of emergency workers also there working in horrific conditions but according to you the only thing that Ukraine needs is more weapons because sure that's going to kick Russia out immediately and solve every problem. Indeed Ireland's pittance of 100 Javelins will send Russia packing before the supplies even reach the country I'm sure; job done!

    Maybe spare a thought for a medical workers who might appreciate a few extra fully equipped ambulances, who might be crying out for sterile medical equipment so that the child who just lost his leg might at least be able to stay alive rather than die in agony with a preventable infection.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Russia will be isolated from the west for the next few decades for sure, but Ukraine too will be utterly ruined. Their economy was largely based on low-value stuff like agriculture exports (wheat) and minerals, and most of their factories are now bombed to crap.

    Their economy was already small Timmy and like you say laregly based on what you note. However those same resources have one singular advantage; they're bloody hard to blow up. It's a lot easier to put a factory out of action than a field as it were. They're also very valuable assets for the future rebuilding of the place. Quite a bit of Ukraine's natural resources are still under the ground(and sea) and European help will get them out. Never mind that more will want to buy a European and in time EU Ukraine's assets than Russian. Yes their economy was small, but they've got a lot more potential buyers and business partners than they had before putin's jackboots stamped in.

    So many of their women and children have fled which will leave them with an even worse demographic crisis than they had pre-war. And this all gets worse as the war is prolonged and more and more people flee.

    And those women and kids left their husbands, brothers, fathers, friends and homes behind. These are not mostly male economic migrants we've seen elsewhere. IMHO many if not most will return.

    I also don't think the war will be prolonged. If putin is thinking along those lines he's an even bigger fool than we judged him to be after he started this. His country and his cronies are being hit by ever tighter sanctions, his economy is dropping, inlfation is going only one way and his money costs more to print than it's worth, his army has made progress yes, but it's slow and land is far easier to take than to hold. Especially when faced with the best supported, best funded, best armed, best intel supplied resistance army in history whose land you've just stolen. Plus many of their loved ones are already safe in other countries very friendly to you and your cause. A man, or woman for that matter, fighting for their land will fight all the harder knowing their loved ones can't be touched by their enemy.

    As for territory, Russia wont hold on to anything west of Dnieper but Ukraine wont be able to retake much of the land already taken either Melitopol, Mariupol, Berdyansk, half of Kherson will stay under Russian control unless the Russians voluntarily pull out in exchange for some Ukrainian compromises (neutrality/non-NATO etc)

    Like I reckoned Donbas is gone and I say goodbye and thanks Vlad. Crimea is a total loss. It always had a high Russian population and that's even more the case since Russia annexed it. The corridor is still in play. Again it depends on how much control they can exert. When the official shooting stops they're still having to deal with a majority Ukrainian population, armed to the teeth, wanting them dead. In the Donbas they have far more local support. The Russian separatists want them there and many if not ultimately most Ukrainian patriots will leave(and I'd encourage them to).

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    Russia admitting defeat. By claiming they 'successfully' failed to take the major cities. The only question now is when they will start the Special Military Run-Like-F*+K.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,557 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's far more obvious that that. The Ukrainians are hunting them as a tactic.

    Facilitated I am assuming by "private" surveillance assistance from the West.

    If I were a Russian General there currently I'd be throwing my phone in the river.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Well, well,well.....remember how they were insisting for the first two weeks of the war that the aim was to "denazify" and "demilitarise" Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,075 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Good video, here, showing a time lapse of the different polities which have existed within the borders of current-day Ukraine since 600 BC up 'til now.

    In short, it's been a diverse history. Putin's assertion that Russians and Ukrainians are historically one people is questionable, to say the least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,114 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It is a bit of a misconception that Ireland has no offensive weapons useful to Ukraine. Ireland has 1,800 AT4 anti tank rockets:

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    A Ukrainian solider with an AT-4, one of the first seen in country as of 5 March


    22-3-22:


    So Ireland coud send almost a third as many as the US is sending. It also has a few Javelins which would be extremely useful and well received.

    'But everyones already sending them so much stuff, they surely wouldn't make a difference':


    They need everything they can get, and despite all the glowing promises of stuff to be sent, it doesn't seem to be arriving anything like fast enough:

    "Ukraine has said it is fast running out of the weapons it needs to destroy Russian aircraft and tanks and urged Germany and France to honour their pledges and send more arms.

    ...

    Western officials said that Ukraine was “obviously expending a lot of ordnance”, and more than anticipated. They had expected to be supporting a more limited insurgency by this stage." https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ukrainian-troops-are-running-out-of-weapons-in-fight-against-russia-87d7mqzlt

    Zelenskyy recently said that they were using a weeks worth of military aid in just 20 hours.

    There is actually a benefit to sending them all these munitions. They don't last forever and have a shelf life, so handing them over puts them to better use than Ireland realistically ever would and allows for restocking with better and fresher stuff.

    Call it military grade environmentalism - not allowing things spoil and go to waste.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,114 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭animalinside


    Well, well, well - Zelensky now giving Ireland **** for daring to remain neutral in a matter of war. This after Michael Martin was prostrating his anus in obscene fashion to him a few days ago.

    Talk about entitlement and biting the hand that feeds you, he seems to want nothing but WW3. The truth character of Zelensky is all coming out now.

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10651117/Zelensky-scolds-Europe-late-imposing-sanctions-Russia.html



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Where happened Belarus?



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