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25-03-2022 03:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118833922#Comment_118833922

He meant JK Rowling

Strazdas · 25-03-2022 03:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834286#Comment_118834286

It's clearly a fabricated number. Even the lowest estimates from the West have Russian fatalities at around 5 to 7000 losses.

25-03-2022 03:03PM

I’m sure it was meant as “polite encouragement”. We’ll get a sense of exactly what he meant on 6 April when he addresses the Oireachtas, but given how rapidly things are moving, it’s hard to know where we will be by then.

timmyntc · 25-03-2022 03:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834272#Comment_118834272

Who did the bombing of Sarajevo? Mosul? Tripoli? Benghazi? etc etc

Warmongering is not unique to "dictators"

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834246#Comment_118834246

I dont think anyone really "wins" this conflict, but do you really see Ukraine coming out with their 2021 territory lines intact and no compromises?

Wibbs · 25-03-2022 03:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834272#Comment_118834272

Hollywood not recognising the Red Armies contribution to defeating Nazi Germany.

In fairness with Hollywood's representations of WW2 I'm surprised even the Germans get a look in. 😁 And putin is lobbing around more rocks in his glass house even here. Russian WW2 movies are even more one sided and even more local. I can't recall in any of them I've seen any reference to the Allies or the massive help Russia got from them. Now Russia has produced some fantastic film makers and did from early on(on WW2 "Come and see" is a bloody masterpiece), but they can out jingo even Hollywood. Many of their war flics make Rambo 3 look like a sober documentary.

cnocbui · 25-03-2022 03:09PM

Crocodile Booze · 25-03-2022 03:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834316#Comment_118834316

He did. See my hilarious joke here : https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834021/#Comment_118834021

cnocbui · 25-03-2022 03:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118833253#Comment_118833253

Oh, they'll accept gold, all right:

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1507260918924730368?cxt=HHwWgICzhb307uopAAAA

25-03-2022 03:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834386#Comment_118834386

That's crazy man.

Have you ever done DMT?

Wolf359f · 25-03-2022 03:16PM

Even the visually confirmed vehicles destroyed, assuming they only had a single occupant would be higher than that!

storker · 25-03-2022 03:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834346#Comment_118834346

I've watched Russian WW2 two movies recently "The Fortress" about the defence of the Brest-Litovsk citadel, and "The Final Stand" , both set in 1941 and showing Russians heroically defending against the fascist invaders. Quite well done actually, apart from the Braveheart-style hand-to-hand combat in the middle of the battlefield. And of course nobody else gets a mention. Why would they? To tell a Russian in that situation that the British are fighting too is no more use to him than telling him there's a man in the moon. (At least he'd have had a better chance of seeing the man in the moon, given enough vodka...) It's the same where American movies don't mention the Russians or Brits. They had their own stuff to worry about and were in completely different sectors. The close co-operation between troops of different nations as shown in say, A Bridge Too Far, was most unusual.

That U-571 movie however, completely takes the piss.

storker · 25-03-2022 03:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834429#Comment_118834429

I only found out recently that Comrade Scherbina moonlighted as a Russian sub commander in The Hunt for Red October...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZB3ZclZtZg&ab_channel=DomenicoCecini

mikewest · 25-03-2022 03:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834340#Comment_118834340

Nope I can't see them coming out with their 2021 territory lines intact but they are looking like coming out with their 2013 territory lines. Combination of fighting, sanctions and bloody-mindedness.

cnocbui · 25-03-2022 03:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118833651#Comment_118833651

The same useless idiots who are trying to prevent an LNG terminal being built on the Shannon estuary. You could hardly make it up.

Wibbs · 25-03-2022 03:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834340#Comment_118834340

Nope. Crimea is gone already. The Donbas likely gone too(IMHO I'd be thinking better off for the future), the sticking point will be the Crimean corridor. Compromises? No NATO and that wasn't realistically on the table anyway for a good while yet, even if putin used that as an excuse to invade. The EU is still on the table and because of putin a much shorter table with it. Any "de-nazifying" will be for the optics on both sides.

And yes IMHO there will be a winner and a clear one in this war and it won't be Russia.

Ukraine will get massive support in rebuilding and ultimately joining the EU and Europe. They'll never look East again. Their economy will grow and the rebuilding will benefit the EU and Ukrainians, politically, socially and economically. And we can thank putin for all of that. Thanks Vlad. You utter moron. 😂

Russia's fúcked. Even if all the sanctions were lifted tomorrow - and they won't be - their criminal facist aggression, lack of trustworthiness in business and the surprisingly lacklustre, even dire performance of their military has shown them up to be the crooked busted flush they are. Their population is falling. Their brain drain has increased with this war and they won't be back any time soon. They're pariahs across the board(well Mali likes them... 🤣) from now on and will be until there's a regime change. Hey, maybe they might be able to chow down on a Big Macski again this summer, but they've set themselves back by at least a decade. All they have left now are nukes and oil and gas(and the West is trying to pivot away from the latter as fast as possible).

Russia; a glorified petrol station whose millionarie owner waves about a double barrelled shotgun while his workers get a tenner a week and praise him for it wondering why there are so few cars at his pumps.

25-03-2022 03:27PM

From what I gather that company isn’t doing very well anyway. The simplest thing to do would be let it go to the wall and just directly protect the jobs.

I don’t think it’s a business anyone would be rushing into - low margin, hugely energy intensive in a country with high energy costs etc.

cnocbui · 25-03-2022 03:29PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834034#Comment_118834034

How does that work? I saw a claim that all their gold reserves are safely stored in Russia.

"The Central Bank of #Russia has assured that all gold from foreign exchange reserves is in the vaults of the Bank of Russia on the territory of the country."

realdanbreen · 25-03-2022 03:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834280#Comment_118834280

Hear hear!

25-03-2022 03:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834480#Comment_118834480

Seems there’s a bunch of useful conspiracy theorist types who will jump onto whatever the next bandwagon is though.

They’re quick to object to offshore wind, onshore wind, solar, electrical wires, LNG terminals, offshore gas and in Germany they shut down the nuclear sector in favour of .. mostly gas.

I find it a little odd though that in Ireland and elsewhere a lot of it amazingly enough seems to result in an outcome of dependency on imported gas by pipeline, which inevitably had driven up Gasprom’s exports.

Coincidence? Clever use of communication / public affairs? There’s probably a few PhDs yet to be written on it!

HerrKuehn · 25-03-2022 03:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834280#Comment_118834280

I agree with you with respect to Ireland providing weapons. With the UK there is no reason why they cannot do both the humanitarian part and the military part. Sending weapons is a small cost to them and obviously it is greatly valued by Ukraine. Taking care of people fleeing the war means actually inconveniencing the local population though, more demand for housing, longer waiting lists for hospital or GP, more crowded classrooms. Sending the weapons will only cost each citizen a few pound.

25-03-2022 03:45PM

I think ultimately what this has also done is give any Eastern Europeans who were romanticising their old days and hard man authoritarianism a rather brutally harsh reminder of what Russia is all about and why they joined the EU and NATO in the first place.

Russia had growing influence in Eastern Europe, I would be fairly certain that’s now completely erased.

He’s solidified the EU, strengthened NATO and completely isolated Russia, from Europe and the West at least, probably for at least a generation.

It would seem the outcome is the complete opposite of the objective.

odyssey06 · 25-03-2022 03:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834209#Comment_118834209

That's probably only the count of officers ! ... once upon a time casualties for officers v enlisted were reported separately.

JoChervil · 25-03-2022 03:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834504#Comment_118834504

I disagree. Ukraine won't lose Crimea.

fergiesfolly · 25-03-2022 03:48PM

Thought his comments on Ireland were odd to say the least. Don't know if it was a mistranslation, or he is confused and thinks we're still connected to the UK someway and have a larger arsenal than we actually do. The Are Corp had a flyover celebrating the centenary and there was less than 20 aircraft, no of which can fire a weapon. We have limited supply of anything Ukraine might need. Whereas France,UK Italy etc have much larger military resources. I'd bet they haven't scratched the surface of what they could supply. Maybe he should aim his vexation there.

We should be quite proud of what we have done as a state and a people and I hope his comments don't damage that goodwill.

briany · 25-03-2022 03:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834269#Comment_118834269

I had wondered the same kind of thing myself. Before the invasion kicked off, I had wondered if Zelenskyy could work something out with the U.S. whereby the U.S. would place forces within Ukraine's borders until Russia's forces over the border dispersed. Looking at it from Biden's perspective, though, even if it could have been done, it's a hell of a bluff to call, and U.S. intelligence was possibly saying that Russia weren't in a backing down kind of mood. Domestically, Biden would have gotten a hammering by opponents saying he was attempting to goad the Russians into WW3. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, in a lot of ways with this whole situation.

whatchagonnado · 25-03-2022 03:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834340#Comment_118834340

Yes, but all were the result of dictators or those wishing to emulate. Ghadaffi, Milosevic, Saddam, Al Asad. None of those blokes should have ever had the opportunity to hold public office.

o1s1n · 25-03-2022 03:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834658#Comment_118834658

...they already did?

indioblack · 25-03-2022 03:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834208#Comment_118834208

Yet you chose to make the comparison.

I acknowledge the 10,000 in Ireland and stand corrected. I responded to your stating that they were expected.

I've always made the distinction between government and people.

Strazdas · 25-03-2022 03:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834649#Comment_118834649

The anti-EU and anti-NATO guys in western Europe have taken a hammering as well. Remember how the Brexit guys in England claimed insistently that the European Union was totally unnecessary, hadn't brought peace to Europe at all and the continent would be much better as a bunch of individual sovereign states competing against each other.

JoChervil · 25-03-2022 03:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118834649#Comment_118834649

Actually, I hope EU (even people here on the boards) will realise what authoritarianism means and how a big threat it is. Most Eastern Europeans are very well aware of it and always were.

The far Right extremist parties from different countries were starting having meetings lately (in December and in January) hoping for a new world order after Russian invasion (and they probably assumed - a win). Luckily it has gone in a completely different way.

How lucky we are, that Democrats won last US election and Zelenskyy become a president of Ukraine. We would be in a completly different world now...

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