Russia - threadbanned users in OP

You can get Russian propaganda translated into English and laundered by folks like jack posobiecs, joe rogan, mick wallace, tucker carlson, jill stein, glen greenwald, tulsi gabbard, steve bannon and various other cranks on the daft ends of the ideological horseshoe.

It's the language of the woke left, Russia has sponsored a lot of it over the years.

It's about getting buy in with the young up and coming, more importantly their often powerful parents. Putin aims to have sympathisers and supporters across the world like the Soviet Union did.

It's all about returning to the power of the Soviet Union.

Ukraine seems like it would be a fun holiday destination for US servicemen. They could rent tanks from Poland for even more craic or just joyride on abandoned Russian ones.

If you're explaining you're losing.

They are banned in many countries because those countries have broadcasting standards that news channels must adhere to as a licence condition. Not just Russian channels those rules apply to all. So if there are complaints about them... and they dont meet those standards they would need exemption from those rules to stay on air.

I think its pretty clear that is your real agenda here, challenging western actions rather than any real concern about Ukraine or real desire for the truth.

A poster who gets more worked up about russias access to baby food than the atrocities inflicted on Ukranian children.

Then gets defensive and puts on the poor poor pitiful me show when other posters have to prompt you to concede that Russian media shouldnt be trusted and that of course what they are doing in Ukraine is terrible.

So no, not a healthy attitude.

True colours coming through.

It reminds me of the Nazi "Wochenshau" newsreels from WW2, particularly the ones from 1943 onward, when the war was clearly being lost but the narrator was cheerily announcing the latest German successes. The level of lies and propaganda here is off the scale, they're not even trying to disguise that it's mostly nonsense dressed up as 'news'.

It's been a terrible few weeks for the pro-Kremlin puppets in the West in fact. Imagine being shills for such a desperate, corrupt, lying and debased regime. Hopefully it's career ending for a lot of them.

We face a bit of a paradox in the West. We have freedom of speech, or at least a greater degree of it than certain other governments around the world. We can use that freedom of speech to probe, to question and thereby hold our governments to account. The consensus is that this is good. But this openness and ability to ask questions can be used to spread FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt). As we strive for balance and perspective, we end up asking a lot of questions which lead to more questions and yet more questions. The problem when war comes is that we need answers and action, because your enemies in war are not going to afford you unlimited time to debate things. They'd prefer you in an endless state of indecision, in fact, and unable to move with purpose and direction. The Russians know that full well, too. It's been a great relief that the West has not questioned itself too much in this crisis and hit the Russians hard with sanctions, and piled the weapons into the hands of Ukraine. The Russians have been surprised by this firmness and they do not like it. We can pour over the minutiae of what was right or wrong in retrospect, as scholars have done with WW2 and every other war in history, but when a war is ongoing one thing trumps all and that is that the enemy must be defeated.