Which one of us is the D*ckhead?

Sorry, hard to determine if the mother is a milf. So inconclusive.

It's an interesting one. Over in the UK that's now the rule (to stop), as with many European countries.

Wonder if there is/will be similar rules introduced in Ireland.

Stopping tho (when it's not the rule) is still dangerous. It's unexpected.

You'd be wrong to do so.

Nobody is expecting a car exiting a roundabout to stop abruptly. There's a high chance that someone behind me would run into the back of me, possibly shunting me forward causing me to hit one of the cyclists.

Yea because he created a dangerous situation.

What would happen if someone started to cross the road from the truck drivers left hand side? There's a good chance that he won't see them as his attention is on the cyclists. Cyclists could cross quickly compared to a pedestrian from his left, then he takes off and flattens a pedestrian.

It's happened me a few times when someone has stopped or slowed down to let me across.

I hate it. I've in the past just put my hand up politely and walked on without crossing. I've to think of my own safety first.

Got a filthy look from a driver once, he must've thought I was messing with him.

There is no obligation to stop driving for people who are stood on the path in safety…

the is an obligation on the dîckhead in the van that they continue to make progress and not stop in the middle of the road obstructing traffic.

there is an obligation on the dîckhead in the van that they don’t make obscene gestures at oncoming traffic.

Yes people should drive with enough distance from the car in front to avoid collisions, but in reality this doesn't happen. Unnecessarily stopping at the exit of a roundabout, in my opinion, is dangerous and is likely to cause a collision. You'd fail your driving test if you did it.

The truck driver.

Virtue signaling gone wrong.

The vulnerable road users are the cyclists and pedestrians. I do cycle a bike, often, and get most annoyed at motorists cutting across me, overtaking dangerously, swerving deliberately at me, running through red lights, etc. Pedestrians pose far less danger to cyclists and certainly to motorists.

Would you fail your driving test for following dangerously close and not paying attention to vulnerable road users? Would you fail your test if you hit a pedestrian? My point was that if the car in front suddenly has to stop, for any reason, you should be in a position to stop too. If you're too close, or there's another car too close behind you, then there's possibly going to be a collision. If someone in front of you does something wrong, then you have to be in a position to react to that. If you're not, then it's possible that you are also doing something wrong.

In my opinion, driving too close to the car in front is dangerous and can lead to a collision. If enough space is maintained then you have time to react to whatever happens ahead and avoid a collision. If the car in front of you at that roundabout had been going straight instead of right, and had decided to stop, then looking at your speed and distance there I think you'd have had time to stop safely. If you had been travelling too close, or were speeding, then you may not be able to stop in time. In that case I maintain it would have been your fault for driving without enough care. Even if the car in front were completely wrong to stop, that doesn't absolve someone following of any fault.

I've been walking a lot with the baby recently and people stop in strange places to let you cross the road with a buggy. I know they do it with the best of intentions, but they're more likely to cause an accident by stopping unexpectedly in a road without any obstructions, than if they just drove on and I waited for a safe time to cross.

I'd just drive on and let let the people crossing find a good time to cross.

You can. It's fair to say the bloke in the video above didn't mind there being cars behind him. Could have been a decent pile up with all those cars.

But, if you think about it, if there's no car behind you, then pedestrians have a good chance of crosing anyway, particularly in the roundabout scenario.

Great example. All done with the best intentions and the driver was to be helpful so I'm not having a pop at their intentions. Bit it's better to just drive on and only stop when other driver and pedestrians would expect you to stop like zebra crossings.

That's true. Different people will take different time to cross the road. Im not aure how that really changes things though.

Those people will know how long it takes them to cross a road safely, so they can pick their moment better than any random motorist. It's also true that the busier the road is the harder it will be for them to pick a safe moment to cross. But the busier the road is, the more dangerous it is to other riad users to just stop in the road without any obvious obstruction.

I'd err on the side of just behaving normally as a motorist and allowing the pedestrians to find the right moment to cross safely.

The problem with stopping to let people cross at random locations is that it causes confusion. Nobody is expecting a vehicle to just stop when traffic is flowing normally.

The person behind the stopped vehicle will most likely be able to ascertain why the vehicle has stopped. The rest of the cars behind have limited visibility of the situation.

Imagine this scenario. A van driver stops to let a dad with a buggy cross the road. As the dad and buggy are crossing in front of the van, a moped comes from behind the van. The moped driver can't see the dad and buggy and decides to overtake the van. Just as he gets to the front of the van, the buggy has cleared the van and the moped collides with the buggy. That child probably wouldn't survive. 

Do you still think it's safe to stop and let people cross the road at random locations?