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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #43232
    Level 42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Level 42


    irish media getting fewer click bait clicks time to get that covid advertising going again



  • #43233
    Amadan Dubh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭Amadan Dubh


    Why would I wear a mask in my daily life when there are outbreaks in hospitals that are causing the issues there? What possible link could be made between me wearing whatever I classify as a mask on my face and COVID in our hospitals. It's bizarre and the INMO Have done some impressive mental gymnastics to put out such a press release.



  • #43234
    waterwelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820621#Comment_118820621

    It's all about being seen to be doing something.

    Reducing contacts is what reduces virus spread but nobody is calling for that because it can't be seen.

    Masks was always about optics.



  • #43235
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,118 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118819385#Comment_118819385

    In a democracy they’ve every right to offer a view.

    regardless of how it’s received. They are healthcare professionals working at the forefront of this pandemic since day one so they have a front row view and experience of every aspect of this pandemic.



  • #43236
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118819738#Comment_118819738

    The executives and consultants are well "funded", the actual frontline staff and services that are of some value to the public are abysmally funded.



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  • #43237
    waterwelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118821025#Comment_118821025

    Why are they not asking people to reduce contacts then?

    Why demand something that is pointless instead of demand something that work?

    Surely if they have such experience they can see the wood from the trees here?



  • #43238
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118821025#Comment_118821025

    They don't have a front row view of every aspect of this pandemic. They certainly don't have any experience of the loss of income and the utter hopelessness that goes with that.



  • #43239
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    INMO General Secretary Ms Phil Ni Sheaghdha on the Six One News yesterday really went all out on the masks. She was out in bright sunshine with one on at a distance from others speaking to the camera. What sort of nonsense is this?



  • #43240
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118820621#Comment_118820621

    Unfortunately there is no vaccination for stupid.

    Its been reported that the new strain of omicrone is 30% more transmissible than the previous strain, that hospitals have high numbers of infections is therefore not a surprise, they are full of people who are ill/vulnerable, many immobile for extended parts of the day in close proximity after all.

    So look, here is the link you are missing, if spread in the community is reduced, the likelihood of hospitalisations from Covid also reduces. Also, importantly, you could be one of those people who even though you are young, healthy and fit, could become very sick, as well, you may be transmitting it to others

    There, who would have thought a mask could help, must be new information. I’m not saying you have to wear a mask, but there is no excuse for not understanding their benefit.

    Post edited by [Deleted User] on


  • #43241
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118821922#Comment_118821922

    So look, here is the link you are missing, if spread in the community is reduced, the likelihood of hospitalisations from Covid also reduces.

    That over 50% of hospital cases are now incidental suggests that there are far bigger problems in hospital. Hospitalisations from COVID are now well below 1% and cases are overwhelmingly full households laid up for a bit. This little surge should pass quickly enough so a swift reverse will look like we can't live with this at all.



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  • #43242
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118821982#Comment_118821982

    Of course there are far bigger problems in Hospitals, they are full of sick people, Covid is not the only reason why people attend/stay in hospitals. But each person in hospital with Covid has to be isolated while there, so if even 50% of people in hospitals are as a result of community spread, it puts a huge strain on services.

    I do not advocate going back to restrictions or mask mandates, but there really is no excuse for not understanding the benefits of wearing masks.



  • #43243
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118821922#Comment_118821922

    Young, fit, healthy, vaccinated people aren't getting very sick. No matter how much people want force this blatantly incorrect narrative down our throats.

    At this point I'd argue its more stupid to go around worried about this, genuinely. You are getting covid, it will happen, its a part of life now. I do find it interesting that 'stupid' is always used for the less conservative, and its acceptable. But its unacceptable to call the hyperconservative stupid, even though they're damaging their own lives.



  • #43244
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822217#Comment_118822217

    The thing I'd add to that sentiment though, is that you should continue to be mindful when you are going to be around people with vulnerabilities. It's an extra reminder to be careful when you possibly have any viral or bacterial infection to do what you can to ensure you don't pass it on to others, especially anyone vulnerable.



  • #43245
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I never thought we'd see the day that people actually wanted to have a pandemic. The media are absolutely desperate to get this back on the front pages. The experts are lining up to be interviewed. The unions are sharpening their knives. The hospitals desperate to tell us that the same number of people as every year are on trollies.

    I work on a team of almost 100 people and they are all giddy. Dying for the numbers to go up in the hope they can work from home again.

    i see lots of people say "Nobody wants a pandemic" but I don't believe it. People do want this.



  • #43246
    waterwelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118821922#Comment_118821922

    Highly transmissible new variant, high numbers in hospital, you could be the one in a million young, healthy and vaccinated people who get it etc. and a mask is fantastic.

    We've heard this narrative before, many times now. Well at Christmas we had masks galore and 500000 cases a week.

    Guess what? Masks made no difference.

    Masks are mandatory in hospitals yet we keep getting hospital outbreaks.

    Surely if masks worked this wouldn't happen?



  • #43247
    waterwelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822640#Comment_118822640

    Every pub I went into last weekend had plenty of old people, they didn't seem bothered by this non event.



  • #43248
    waterwelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822077#Comment_118822077

    So everybody with a positive covid test gets a private room?

    How is it spreading in hospitals if they are all isolating and wearing masks?



  • #43249
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822763#Comment_118822763

    Worked at a wedding at the weekend and there were quite a few elderly people attending. They made zero effort to reduce their chances of getting covid. No wearing masks and could always be found in the most unventilated parts of the venue (presumably more worried about feeling cold than getting covid). I'm 100% in favour of removing restrictions, including mask mandates, but I did worry for them somewhat. But each to their own.



  • #43250
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭growleaves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822217#Comment_118822217

    Nor are young, fit, healthy unvaccinated people for that matter.



  • #43251
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Well at least some positivity, ICU has dropped from 61 to 55 this morning.



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  • #43252
    waterwelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822744#Comment_118822744


    There is no denying a lot of people wanted it to last forever.

    Back in the office now and the price of fuel!



  • #43253
    waterwelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822925#Comment_118822925

    We really need a breakdown of vaccinated / unvaccinated / being treated for covid / incidental covid.

    I wouldnt be surprised if we are treating less than 10 fully vaccinated people for covid in ICU today.



  • #43254
    Xander10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,782 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Stephen Donnelly & Helen McEntee join Michael Martin on Covid list.



  • #43255
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118823228#Comment_118823228

    The good thing is, the more ministers/td's etc. that get it, the more they will realised its just another bug we need to live with. Let the elderly and vulnerable take a bit more care and give them a 4th vax, but society has to just get on with things.



  • #43256
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭the corpo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118822217#Comment_118822217

    This isn't true though, many aren't but enough are, Our household is really suffering with covid this week, way worse than any cold or 'mild flu'. My wife run's marathons, my daughter is superfit, swims and dances. We're all in bits. Of my friends who have it I'd say it's 50/50 between mild symptoms and being really floored by it.

    I guess it's this new variant, but I don't believe it can be so readily dismissed...



  • #43257
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,455 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118823262#Comment_118823262

    The rhetoric is relentless though! It’s all over social media! GPs coming out the medias back side! Near impossible to avoid the headlines! You had the IT and Examiner with front page news today!



  • #43258
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118823315#Comment_118823315

    Oh I hear you, I'll be avoiding my inlaws for the next week as I know they'll be back up to high do! Anyone not locking down/mask wearing are akin to murderers, its quite sad really.



  • #43259
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118823313#Comment_118823313

    It’s not being readily dismissed for most part. It’s people trying to live their lives alongside it and rightly so. We are all going to be exposed to it. Anyone who is calling for lockdowns ( i know a few) or severe restrictions at this stage as far as I’m concerned can DO ONE. BTW i do practice caution and still wear a mask in certain settings and work. I’m certainly not dismissing it.



  • #43260
    waterwelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118823313#Comment_118823313

    Being ill at home is hardly "very sick" though. Most people would define very sick as needing hospital or even ICU.

    The numbers of vaccinated in ICU are not increasing.

    We are all most likely getting this at some point so we just need to move on, and if we get it, deal with it.

    The majority have most likely had it by now so herd immunity can't be far away.



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  • #43261
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,268 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    The stress of isolating is worse than the disease at this stage



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