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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    😂

    Oh wow the Washington Post, definitely an organ of NATO then. Is this the evidence you spent the last few hours digging for?

    Educated in the West?? Heavens above, you've cracked open the entire stinking conspiracy CDQ!!

    (Don't think we didn't see the deleted post where you said some of the journalists were educated in France, thus making them suspect. I did a summer in France as a pup, am I an unwitting NATO sleeper cell too?)

    You'll be quick off the mark furnishing us with a credible source that other journalists are Azov Batallion members (it would help if you spelled it right btw). Fetch...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    🤣

    FYI, after doing a little bit of low-effort Googling, you even got the wrong American outlet she had a byline in. And she was never employed by them.

    Pony up the evidence of the Azov links, we're waiting...



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Saying that NATO can't defend the Suwalki Gap, or even Lithuania as a whole, which is a possibility depending on the circumstances, does not immediately imply that NATO is not willing to take (and capable of taking) a counter-offensive. The place would be a battleground either way. "There would be many casualties". Yes. There would be. Wars tend to do that.

    That's not how Western militaries tend to work, nor their political systems. They exist to conduct the operations desired by their civilian leadership. there is no requirement that the leadership, nor those they represent, themselves partake. If getting involved is the right thing to be done, then it's the right thing to be done and the military will salute and move forward.

    Worrying that the Russians would get even more unhappy with the West is a silly reason to not get involved. They're already plenty pissed at us for the sanctions and because our weapons are killing their men and equipment. It seems that the end result of the current Russian offensive is more and more likely to be a Russian defeat. If that's so, then the thing that NATO can control is how many Ukrainians are going to die, and how much Ukrainian infrastructure will be destroyed before that happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,153 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "Since civil war broke out in Syria in 2011, Israel has carried out hundreds of air strikes on Syrian territory, targeting government positions as well as allied Iran-backed forces and Hezbollah fighters." https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/02/08/israel-missile-targets-syria/

    Given Israel has F-35s, I doubt Russia has control over Syrian airspace. Israel would wipe the floor with them if the Russians ever took a shot at an Israeli plane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    The Chinese ambassador to the United States says that China will not send weapons and ammunition to support Russia’s war in Ukraine and that Beijing would “do everything to de-escalate the crisis”.


    Qin Gang's comments come after US President Joe Biden warned his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping on Friday that there would be "consequences" if Beijing provided material support to Moscow.


    Beijing denied reports last week that it was open to providing Moscow with armaments as "disinformation", but China has been reluctant to rebuke Russia for its invasion.


    Speaking to US broadcaster CBS, Gang complained that public condemnation by the West "doesn't help" and that "good diplomacy" was needed.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60802572



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,153 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki and Norway's Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere (not pictured) attend a news conference in the government's official residence in Oslo, Norway March 8, 2022. NTB/Stian Lysberg Solum via REUTERS

    WARSAW, March 18 (Reuters) - Poland will formally submit a proposal for a peacekeeping mission in Ukraine at the next NATO summit, Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said on Friday."

    Not just Mig-29's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    I don't think we've seen direct evidence of Russia using large thermobaric warheads yet. They have definitely used their TOS-1 thermobaric rockets. Many of their smaller man-portable devices also have thermobaric versions which have been documented in Ukraine to varying degrees; but in the grand scheme of things they wouldn't be particularly powerful individually.

    Russia does however have thermobaric versions of many of their other weapon types such as their cruise and ballistic missiles; I'm not sure if any of those have been used or how many they might have. Russia has in the past claimed to have tested the largest thermobaric weapon in the world which is more powerful than the smallest nuclear warheads; but presumably even if it did exist it probably wouldn't exist in significant quantities. I also believe it can only be dropped from its strategic bombers which are unlikely to be allowed close enough to drop any as things currently stand; although it might be a possibility in Mariupol or in the East.

    One thing they haven't used (certainly not extensively at least) is incendiary munitions; particularly white phosphorous munitions. There were some captured on video but it was suggested they were conventional incendiary munitions. Obviously using these over large suburban and city areas could cause significant destruction due to fire.

    As far as I can tell Russia have used effectively every type of conventional munition at their disposal in Ukraine at least once. Cluster bombs, thermobaric weapons, incendiaries, "suicide drones", sea and land mines, etc. There have even been documented prototypes in Ukraine which are believed to be the only ones of their kind.

    They have also used what appeared to be civilian grade tear gas against protesters; which is technically a chemical weapon.

    So what's left for them to use? In order of likelihood maybe something like large thermobaric warheads, larger-scale or military-grade chemical, nuclear, and biological.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    I mean operating from Polish air fields only adds lots of new challenges and makes others even more difficult; and doesn't really address any of the other problems with NATO operating over Ukraine.

    And the thing about the Russian military stockpile is that most of it works at least for a little while; or for at least one use. Would you like to take a chance that 0 out of ~6000 nuclear warheads aren't in good enough working order to fly in the general direction of something important and go boom? For all their failures in Ukraine they have managed to cause quite a bit of damage; in case you hadn't noticed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    That's good news; assuming they actually keep their word of course.

    I do wonder if they might supply MREs, protective equipment, trucks etc. though; which are arguably likely to be more important to Russian operations in and around Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    Russia hit the Sumykhimprom chemical plant in Sumy a few hours ago which is now leaking Ammonia, nasty stuff that.

    There was this a few days ago:-

    Was it deliberate?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Speaking of chemical weapons:

    And naturally enough two days ago Russia were talking about this very chemical plant being a target for Ukrainian "nationalists":




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,927 ✭✭✭eire4


    It always makes me shake my head when I read about people like this living in open western societies. If your love affair with authoritarianism is so intense why are you not living there then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    I've read that Finland and Poland together have the biggest field artillery in the whole of Europe, also Finland is an arms supplier and is so well prepared if russia were to attack.



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Which was? I thought I answered everything, bear in mind I was answering a slew of questions from a concerted group who got agitated that I was over blowing nuclear war, dealing with in some cases 'If nuclear war happens it happens'. Sorry if I missed a question of yours, I know some of mine were missed.



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    That's a long way off Poland going on a solo run against Russia. If they do hats off to them, and I wish them god's speed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 217 ✭✭strathspey


    I agree. Life is a simple pecking order. You see it between siblings, you see it in the school yard and within corporate life. By extension you can say it exists between societies and civilizations. I know the West isn't perfect, but I do know who I would prefer as my overlord.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Belarus getting special attention this morning, with a USAF Global Hawk drone operating over Poland at 53,000ft along the border. Then in Lithuania, there are not one, but two US Army Beech signals-gathering turboprops covering both the border with Belarus and Kaliningrad.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,399 ✭✭✭Field east


    There is , technically , a way that NATO can GET DIRECTLY INVOLVED in the Ukr.. and is as follows :- NATO updates it’s requirements re entry into NATO and would go like this . It would create a special category for new applications and call it Temporary/ Guest / Provisional - or whatever- members and such membership is sanctioned once the application form hits the NATO Deak. NATO would then make available ALL of its services to the Guest /Temporary member. NATO would not require the new member to fulfill all the requirements of a full member from the outset. ‘An exchange of letters’ might be required - within a very confidential environment might be required beforehand Re NATO agreeing to ‘immediately ‘ accept a new guest member

    The above arrangement might be in place for- say- 5 years and during this period NATO would access the new member re FULL membership. The 5 year period could be extended if required.

    if above strategy is now in place NATO could immediately put in place a no fly zone , etc. Putin is now confronted with a very changed situation

    APART FROM THE SPEED OF TH E ABOVE the BEAUTY of it is that RUSSIA CANNOT VETO IT.

    I know that it does not get rid of the nuke issue but Putin clearly understands that NATO will protect every inch of NATO SPACE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭rogber


    It's about Israel in relation to Russia, if you bothered actually reading. And nothing to do with Jews, rather Israel as a country, two separate entities. Engage your brain before you post



  • Posts: 6,559 [Deleted User]


    This one of those classic scenarios where you claim something as fact and instead of proof, you disappear? Might even return later in the day to make another claim that you can't prove.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭rogber


    Let's hope so. Frankly I trust the Chinese about as much as I trust the Russians



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Mariupol obviously hasn't surrendered ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,413 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Wtf are you talking about... Irish troops in Ukraine..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    I think Israel is trending on Twitter for the 5th time in this war. Literally a war in Europe, and Europeans are obsessed about the minutia of response from a state the size of Wales in the Middle East.


    Europe: Boycott Israel! BDS! From the river to the sea! Israel is illegitimate! we are all Hamas! Muh Israel lobby!

    Also Europe: Why won't Israel jump to Europe's aid when Europe demands it.?!?!?

    If Israel sent weapons in, the same dastardly crew who're just now claiming that Israel is doing nothing about a war in Europe would be saying "typical of Israel trying to profit from war sending in weapons to cause more bloodshed"

    Interesting that there's been no mention of Turkey's very muted response. No Jews, no news.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Surprise, surprise : Young intelligent educated people in the year 2022 don't like the idea of pandering to the violent and catastrophic whims of a fat old communist cretin who wants to drag a generation back to dictatorship squalor.



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