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Gas price to rise by 39% and Electric by 27% in April.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,388 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Far too sensible a proposition for the crazed, neurotic anti science Irish NIMBY lobby



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I’m not against nuclear power but it wouldn’t work in ireland

    * the country is too small

    * the lead in is too long to build it - we need to change now

    * it wouldn’t get through planning process anyway.


    Germany are beyond crazy to decommission their nuclear stations.



  • Registered Users Posts: 614 ✭✭✭J_1980


    That’s what happens when a country constantly gets pushed into a certain direction by the political left. Total economic illiteracy. Same as 2015.

    I’m German and will never return. Actually sadistically enjoying people paying up to €1 per kWh on “basic tariffs” when their provider defaults.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭downtheroad


    Not following you, just reading through a thread and seeing somebody making an ignorant comment about VAT and surprise surprise its the same person as in the electric vehicle thread where several posters ha e tried explaining VAT to you, but you choose to ignore it and use this same EU overlord argument.

    EU membership isn't a la carte by the way. Ireland can't just say we don't like the VAT regulations we signed up to so we will just ignore those, but happily partake in freedom of movement of capital, labour and all the other benefits EU membership has brought to this country.

    You are a typical barstool moaner down the pub. "Blah blah government VAT", and you have absolutely no understanding of the very thing you are arguing about.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,810 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    hahaha, irish governments have been predominantly more conservative, since the state was founded, and still is!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,388 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Yea I can never see it either. But we will be importing it via France and U.K. interconnecters, exporting wind produced electricity when our grid has a surplus vice versa. Think that already could be happening.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,810 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    i also think we are already exporting energy, now is the time to rapidly build our wind network, financially, it makes sense now, but serious investment is needed to do so



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,282 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Not from a financial perspective though.


    The cost killed Nuclear globally, every thing else wins on price.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,388 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    The time has possibly passed alright for new reactors but the existing ones should be maintained and developed/upgraded rather than hysterical rush to shut down to pander to equally hysterical lobby groups. The French don’t appear to be dropping them anytime soon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Sunrise_Sunset




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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,282 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Closing them down when extension or ongoing use was an option was criminal.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    When are Energia/ESB/Airtricity and the rest raising their prices? Surely there must be several other companies decorating and putting the final touches to their price rise carts behind the curtain before they wheel them out to the public?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Just being honest, and I have nothing really to massively contribute to this conversation, but with the next price increase I am fucked.

    Single dad, paying all my own bills + money for the kids (no problem with that) but I've been on the line for a long time. This is just too much. I got my April bills in and I am clueless as to how I can pay them. And since when did they start charging for Gas and Electricity on the same month?



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭digiman


    Really interested in this, my 12 months with Energia is up. Right now Bord Gais will be on the most expensive but when the others rise their prices they may not be. Really not sure should I just change to Electric Ireland now as they seem to have the cheapest rates that I can see.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,388 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Sorry to hear that and as people have said already the standing charge rip off is getting a whopping increase as well so even if you try reduce use they still have us.

    I try save in little ways, for example I shower at the gym as much as i can. Get out of the house as much as I can.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I genuinely don’t know how people are going to manage. Modern house here, heat pump, electric car, double income. We took a hell of a whack this month. I’ve turned down water heating and thermostats but there’s little else we can do.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,388 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I think it’s coming off the back of a stagnation period in salaries too- my own at least was frozen during Covid and with a modest increase (less than inflation) this year that is 50% gobbled up in taxes etc.

    Most of us are becoming much less well off. Someone is creaming it off somewhere - the rip off that is the Irish exchequer is well known but the energy companies must be too. Appreciate a lot of it goes abroad but with 40% of Irish electricity wind generated now it’s time to ask serous questions.



  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭Snugbugrug28


    @fits How much was your bill? Surely with a the right stuff it can't have been anywhere near what non-modern houses +ICE fuel bill would be?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,388 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Nice work if you can get it… “BP’s Irish boss sees pay more than double to £4.4m”

    https://www.independent.ie/business/bps-irish-boss-sees-pay-more-than-double-to-44m-41463682.html



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    Did some digging on electric price increases in the last 12 months so maybe this can indicate a trend given we are talking about the same suppliers for gas.

    electricity price increases in the last 12 months.

    Energia 34pc

    Airtricity 27pc

    Electric Ireland 19pc

    Bord Gais 22.5pc



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    I can see a lot having to pay bills by instalments that they might have paid in one go previously and availing of the level pay type options that some utility providers offer. The likes of the €200 credit due in April will hopefully take some of the pressure off people but I fear with the other inflationary pressures it may only be a drop in the ocean.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭fits


    250 a month the last two months and that’s all our heating , cooking and 90% driving. But it’s a lot higher than it used to be. ( we just got the ev in august). Last year 120 a month level pay covered it. changed contract in august too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭amargar


    Would it be a good move to drop Oil and move to Gas for heating?



  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭Snugbugrug28


    What's your BER if you don't mind me asking? (Sorry to be a nosey parker!)



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,261 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I don’t have one because the new building is classed as an extension. It’s linked to an older building by a corridor.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Piece here on how electricity prices are set in the EU and how it's not working properly. All eyes on what comes out of the EU summit.





  • Registered Users Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭Feisar


    I am fecking raging I didn't spend the extra to get a back boiler stove when I was doing up the house.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭babyducklings1


    Yes there was a bit in one of the national newspapers about that topic this week. I can’t find the article now but it looks like they are going to increase prices as well. As you say wheel it out to the public!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭Amadan Dubh


    Our household energy needs are costing a lot recently and seeing them due to go up more has lead to us redoing the household budget, definitely cutting back on discretionary spending and focusing on sticking more to a list with the weekly household shop. I'm not sure I can support the sanctions against Russia anymore since it risks having a severe impact on our quality of life via cost of living soaring - given the severe financial impact to us in the West by supporting sanctions against Russia, it almost seems madness how we are letting a localised conflict in eastern Ukraine bother us so much.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    The government are not going to help you as they are spending all your money and borrowing more to take in an unknown number of Ukrainian refugees.

    housing crisis, tough

    fuel crisis, tough

    energy crisis, tough

    heath care over stretched, tough

    Can’t wait for the election. It will be a bloodbath.



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