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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    That reply deserves more than just a 👍

    Thanks for taking the time for writing such an informed response.

    As greenpilot, (who's also insightful) says, it's a pleasure to read something when there is knowledge behind it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    For some of the military experts here I wonder now that Russia has used hypersonic missiles and thermobaric bombs along with the more traditional munitions what has it got left in it's arsenal that it has not yet used (nuclear aside).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Occupation authorities in Crimea confirm death of deputy commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet Andrey Paliy

    commanders and generals are falling like flies

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    NATO troops or planes or tanks on ground ie direct intervention could just lead to ‘the bomb 💣’ being used…..but shur it’s worth i.e playing a game of bluff with the homo (Sapian) in the Kremlin…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭rogber


    Including Israel. Scummy nation, doubt even Zelensky's powerful speech today will move them to act



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭rogber


    Ukrainian civilians falling an awful lot faster. People constantly lose sight of the bigger picture due to these minor Ukrainian victories



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Not an expert, but they have enough artillery to last for years and will be making more. Given that they don't care too much about accuracy, the damage they'll do with this is sufficient. I don't think they have much more other than using more air and naval powers as well as drones. They haven't deployed those assets as much, either because they're not up to it or for whatever reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    People need to realise a lot of modern military technology requires a fair bit of training.

    That is why the only aircraft you can give Ukraine are ones that their pilots know how to operate.

    That means it has to be Soviet/Warsaw Pact kit: Migs, Sukhoi, Mils or Czech Aeros.

    It aint like the old days where pilots got a few hours training in a new aircraft and wayhay off you go.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    This is an extremely delicate one for Israel. About 15% of its population is Russian speaking with very large Ukrainian and Russian origin minorities.

    Its coalition government -as always- is incredibly fragile, with Russian-speaking Jews being a critical constituency for the more conservative parts of the Frankenstein government they have cobbled together.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,581 ✭✭✭rogber


    It really isn't a sign of desperation. It's a sign they have the city by the throat and are giving an option: surrender or die.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Yes, Biden put an end to that deal of sending them MiGs after he flip-flopped 20 times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭threeball


    They half measure everything. Get involved in Kosovo but allow a genocide to happen. Get involved in Iraq, under false pretences to pretend they were doing something about 9/11, half ass it and as a result had a fair hand in bringing ISIS into being. Going into afghanistan, promising a new world and democracy, then dropping them in the sh1t and for good measure leaving the documents which identified those who helped them during their stay. Yes I'm sure those Afghans were delighted to be promised salvation then thrown to the wolves in a matter of days. Getting crushed under or falling off planes they clung onto in desperation to escape.

    And once again they are half assing it in Ukraine, we'll help you but not the way you want to be helped and have begged us to help. No we'll sit here with weapons that make the Russians look like they just came out of a cave but you can't have those as they're "offensive" weapons. We can only give you defensive weapons. Its the greatest crock of sh1t I've heard in a while and I've watched the States go through a Trump presidency and Covid so thats some achievement.

    If they want to say they believe in something and stand for something then do so. Stop pretending you believe and stand for it because right now, no more than Putin, all I see is propoganda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Anyone know if Baerbock and Karlov had any old meetings the past few months ?

    Speaking of which I can't ever see any cocktails being named after Karlov.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭redarmy


    A chilling new threat. Russia's Defense Ministry says Ukraine has until 5am on March 21 to surrender the besieged city of Mariupol, adding it'll let residents and troops who lay down arms leave. Anyone left behind "with the bandits" will "face a military tribunal." via RIA



  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, but the poster wanted to know if they were 'going against' Russia. Russia is not important, if there is a NATO force, Ireland will be in it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭thomil


    Regarding that "hypersonic" missile, I think it's worth to take a bit of a step back. From what I've seen, the weapon in question, Kinzhal, is little more than a modified Iskander ballistic missile that has already seen plenty of use in Ukraine. Whilst Kinzhal is air-launched, requiring a specially modified MiG-31 as a launch platform, which can't really be good for availability, it is still in its flight profile a ballistic missile similar to the aforementioned Iskander. It only reaches its hypersonic speeds on the downward part of its ballistic trajectory, rather than in level flight, such as the Russian 3M22 Zircon or the Indian BrahMos missile. That also means that for the target, it doesn't really make much of a difference. Honestly, it's not really the game-changer the Kremlin has made it out to be. It's deadly, no doubt, but from what I've seen, there are only twenty MiG-31 that were modified to the MiG-31K standard and are able to launch Kinzhal in the Russian Air Force inventory.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭threeball


    Good to see them standing by their fellow Jew. Like you say, a scummy nation. Cosy up to the Americans but have one hand down Putins jocks at the same time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Nothing to do with Russians in Israel. It's the fact that Russia is on Israel's border and controls the skies over Syria.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    Good article from 2020 showing how extrajudicial executions were the norm for petty crimes in Slovyansk after 2014, a chilling reality of the laws Russia follows and would self impose on Ukraine:-

    "According to documents, the fates of all three men were decided by so-called “military tribunals” established by Igor Girkin, a former Russian intelligence officer better known at the time by his nom de guerre Igor Strelkov, on the basis of a draconian law conceived by dictator Josef Stalin and imposed shortly after Germany invaded the Soviet Union in World War II. The decree handed down by the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the U.S.S.R. on June 22, 1941, and invoked by Girkin and his Russia-backed forces in 2014, allowed for capital punishment -- a penalty abolished by Ukraine in 2000 and not imposed in Russia, where a moratorium has been in place since 1996 -- for crimes Girkin called “grave” but ranged from petty theft to murder"





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭threeball


    Not to mention they have Roman and his billions to keep happy now hes a citizen. Yes they're sitting very much on the fence aren't they....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I got to the second sentence before you made a howler. Iraq was not a NATO war. This is not a pedantic point and was a major major issue at the time. I'm not trying to be patronizing here, but you are extremely muddled and could do with sharpening up what you're trying to say, if indeed you're trying to say anything worth hearing at all.

    You want NATO to do something but won't declare what.

    You're making up wars the treaty alliance wasn't involved in.

    You're condemning them for intervening in certain places but decrying them for not getting involved in others.

    FYI, the Security Council mandated NATO mission in Afghanistan had wrapped up and been handed over to Afghanistan forces with US air cover and limited ground troop deployments long before the events of last year. A not unimportant point. It's one you'll miss, but it's an important one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,489 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Sounds extremely sinister. What happens to the same residents if the city 'doesn't' surrender to the illegal invaders?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Interesting that you think Israel should deeply involve itself because the president is Jewish. Hypothetically, if he was Irish and Ireland had Russia on its border....would you be okay going gung-ho against the Russians?

    The failure of the Americans was giving Syria to Russia. This has hobbled Israel with regards to any action against Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    concentration camps most likely as is the RuSSian playbook

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Kyiv - The Tragic History of Ukraine's Capital - Mark Felton historian, done his piece on it a few hours ago

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    Could be nothing more than meaningless words, but, judging by their actions thus far likely to see increased indiscriminate bombings of whatever is left I would think, would Russia be bold enough to use a (low yield) nuclear bomb I wonder, then the next day you would see "Kyiv has until 5am to surrender....."

    It wouldn't be the first time such a tactic led to surrender in war.



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