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Thats what they should be doing, taken the gloves off and burying Russia every which way. Ram Putins own medicine down his throat.

The Ukrainians are dispersed and hard to pin down. That's one of Russia's main problems.

The Article is 2 years out of date The US currently has tanks and troops and F-35s in Lithuania and those other baltic states. Not to mention it being a real attack on NATO.

Why wouldnt it work? NATO just puts out media they ve been attacked straight up lie, and go in and do it, beat the russians at there own game take the gloves off completely, no need for our rules and regulations just skip all that and get stuck in.

How about you explain why you think your assessment of the risk is superior to that of Gary Kasparov, Andrei V Kozyrev, The Latvian Parliament, the Polish government and General Wes Clark, former commander of NATO. I'd put their opinions way above your craven Chicken Little witterings.

The risk is that Putin goes full retard and launches a nuke. Very very unlikely but anythings possible. The reality is though that the very same threat is there when he defeats Ukraine and moves on to Moldova. We'll hear they're not nato either so nothing will happen so he'll move somewhere else. Eventually after killing hundreds of thousands we end up at end game where he attacks a nato country and we'll get our answer as to whether he was ever going to launch a nuke.

In the meantime, Europe will be swamped in refugees, feel under compliment to rebuild these countries when Putin eventually is defeated because Russia won't and have to explain how another genocide was allowed happen on European soil. Add a food crisis on top and the pertinent option is to stop him in his tracks now.

That part is probably wrong: "I argue in this thread that if we “blink” on Putin’s nuclear threat, we will increase the risk of WWIII."

“The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.”

― Albert Einstein

They absolutely shouldn't, if Russia was sat shelling civilian's in every city and town in Ireland id expect The west and NATO to do nothing but watch as we are erased from the planet, because we arent in NATO and remember putin has nukes so grab the popcorn and get a good seat for a good auld genocide.

If this was an attack on our country how would we feel if the UK did not provide a no fly zone, did not provide troops or the EU did not intervene militarily and instead tried to ship in aid from Northern Ireland and accept our refugees.

How would you feel about NATO not intervening if Dublin was being bombarded, The mater hospital in ruins, Apartments burning. Galway invaded and rights taken away, The Curragh wiped out.

Leaving your homes in fear, leaving loved animals at home to die as you cannot bring them abroad, your homes and possessions left to burn or be raided by foreign invaders.

Our leaders bundled into vehicles and taken away, values and culture destroyed.

All the while the sanctions mount up against our aggressors and weapons flow into our small army through the NI border. Yet our calls to defend our people are met with " Ireland is not worth risking WW3 for " and " Ireland is not part of NATO, but step a foot in NI and we will wipe you out ".

Not much good as Ireland and it's people are wiped from the map and our ports and airports taken over by ruthless invaders.

Would you all be accepting of NATO and the West's position then?>

Or do people just think we in Ireland are worth more than Ukrainians, that's some f^^king sick ego if that's the case.......!

Yeah thats a fair point i know its the whole nuke threat but id still wager scum like putin are too self serving to kill themselves in a nuke war, thats why i think NATO should go in, in sneakier ways ala "little green men" with covered armbands or to peacekeep.. ect they need to do more anyway but in a more creative way than offically going to war imo anyway.

He was killed in fighting in Mariupol,he was on the ground and not aboard the safety of a ship

Let's be honest I can't see Russia invading any other country after this Ukrainian invasion. Its still ongoing in Ukraine and there still loosing a ton of material and soldiers the longer this drags on. If they had of won the war after a few days then a different ball game, might of moved on other non Nato countries . It will be years and years after this ends before the Russian military will be back up to levels in material and proper training for the military to invade a country again and that's before there loosing more and more each day. Hearing on this thread they will invade Poland etc. after Ukraine, I honestly can't see that happening. It won't, not chance it will so no point going on about them invading a country in Nato as that won't happen, even non Nato countries they probably won't as they will more then likely military be in any position to do so.

In the end though they will have to negotiate with Putin and Russia will still exist. It's about minimizing suffering now but also not rewarding Russia for it's aggression. This could drag out for a long time.

I don't think NATO would want to engage now even if nuclear weapons didn't exist, the outcome could still be millions dead with conventional warfare

@RGARDINR Let's be honest I can't see Russia invading any other country after this Ukrainian invasion. ...

Putin would be still be stupid enough to try ,he's not going to stop at ukraine or he's at least going to nuke part of Ukraine he's not living reality anymore