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  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All the democracy needs to know is that there is intelligence services working in Ireland.

    You do understand what intelligence is about yes? Why would they inform the general public as to their internal workings?



  • Posts: 19,178 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But the Serbs were the ones that started the war, so yes the majority of war crimes were perpetrated by the Serbs. Others did commit crimes, absolutely, but most war crimes were Serbian offenders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    They’ll never beat spirit like this, never…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Its a horribly alien situation to be cheering anyone's death - THAT SAID

    Nice Work Soldiers - Slava Ukraini - more to follow!

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    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,479 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    It's very noticeable that the Russian army has hardly moved at all in the last few days, they've made virtually zero progress in Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭generic_throwaway


    Beyond belief.

    If you give any credence coming to anything coming from Russia's dictatorship, you are beyond help at this point.



  • Posts: 5,121 [Deleted User]


    You can watch it on All4….channel 4 picked it up a couple of weeks ago. I started watching it and I have to say that it is quite amusing

    it’s hard to get your head around the transition from bumbling sitcom character to wartime president!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    They didn't plan their logistics? Oh it seems they did. They assembled a huge invasion force in Belarus under the guise of "exercises" using their(and Belarus') rail network to get their ducks in a row there. That was a barrier when they entered Ukraine, so went to huge miles long columns of trucks on Ukraine's roads. Columns that were remarkably out in the open and largely unharried, which strongly suggests the Russians were confident that the threat towards them was minimal.

    Where they clearly screwed up - and a rookie mistake - was some of their frontline forces seemed to run out of fuel in places, because of supply issues, or they actually advanced a little too quickly for logistics to keep up. That doesn't seem to be in play anymore, now they've got those same trucks assembled near their base of operations around Kyiv in particular and seemingly enough out of range of Ukrainian forces.

    They clearly screwed up thinking/believing the BS that many more Ukrainians would welcome them like saviours from the 'nazis'.

    What is surprising is that I expected way more concentrated artillery and rocket barrages aimed at Kyiv at this stage. Especially now with the world accusing them of war crimes and ostracising them and much of the civilian population moved or moving out, they've nothing to lose on that front. Another surprise has been the remarkable (mostly) absence of their air power. Maybe they're waiting until they fully encircle Kyiv?

    And where is the Ukrianian artillery? One video of them hitting a group of trucks and another group of infantry with mortars seems to be it so far. Where are the Ukrainian tanks for that matter? Most of what we've been seeing from Ukraine has been either infantry attacks with anti tank missiles, drone hits and one light tank/personnel carrier taking out two similar. Clearly it's working as the invaders have been bogged down in a few places.

    I suppose we're missing a lot of what's actually going down on the ground. The modern instant media age is to blame there. The if it's not on video it doesn't exist kinda thing.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭generic_throwaway


    They cared a lot in 1990, before they got used to Western standards of living.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Or they're getting their ducks in a row with logistics and artllery and air power. When they attacked Berlin in 1945 they stopped too, got themselves together and then went in full force.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,153 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I was talking about operational capabilities and strengths, not nuts and bolts specifics of ongoing activities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭techman1


    What will be the future of Belarus after the Ukraine war with a likely independent, european Ukraine led by the charimatic Zelensky? Surely the pressure on Lukashenko will be intolerable, Russia will be weakened, they will hardly want another war to put down a revolution to topple Lukashenko in Belarus. The people of Belarus will not waste any time in getting rid of the Belarus regime before Putin can put nuclear weapons there. It is very likely that Belarus will also now fall outside Russia's orbit now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The totalitarian veils have come right off now, and it sounds like he's speaking about Russians in an alarmingly ethnic way as well.


    It sends a chill down the spine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,479 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    You could definitely argue that they are regrouping or stalling for time, but a counter argument would be that the offensive has genuinely gone pear shaped and has run into major difficulties.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 19,079 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    Anyone think we are still heading for WW3?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Vlad the Impaler was on to something when he felt that sanctions would not last.


    It's a lifeline and he knows it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭briany


    There is no going back for the West and Russia so long as Putin is in charge over there. Cards are fully on the table, now. People following international politics would have been keenly aware for years that Russia had no great love for Western powers, and vice versa, but the hostility was always kept cool and cordial. With the frank words spoken by Putin and Biden this week, I can't see Putin sitting down with Western leaders ever again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,771 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    They did inform the general public about their internal workings, you just missed it. This article is an interview with the former head of the Crime and Security Branch (who have responsibility for counter terrorism) talking about how they are tracking Irish citizens who fought for ISIS in Syria and are also tracking the far right group Pegida and their operations here

    And when theyre not talking direct to the media they are leaking to them, John Mooney of the Sunday Times has a series of articles on whats going on inside the Russian embassy and his sources are in the Crime and Security Branch of the Gardai, he wouldnt have been able to write the articles without the info they fed him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,102 ✭✭✭✭briany


    No-one really knows what's going to happen. We still don't know how far, exactly, Putin is willing to go in order to achieve his aims. If Ukraine continues to resist and Russia continue to push, committing atrocities and using chemical weapons and things like that, we could hit a crisis point where there is just too much public pressure on NATO leaders that they can no longer avoid acting directly.

    ....Or maybe Ukraine and Russia will have a drafted peace deal on the table by the end of this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭thomil


    While you may very well be right, the Red Army in 45 had four years of bloody and horrendous warfare behind them. They had learned the hard way about the importance of a functioning supply chain, and every commander from Zhukov down was aware of that. This institutional knowledge seems to have been almost completely lost in the modern Russian army. They're overly dependent on having access to the Russian railway network, with the logistics units of their armies only designed to gap the relatively short distance to the nearest rail head. When Ukraine cut the railway connections to Russia & Belarus in the opening moves of the war, that basically torpedoed their entire logistics concept.

    All of that is before we get to the issues of intrinsic corruption and poor maintenance of even modern vehicles, such as the Pantsir anti-aircraft system. There were several reports of the tires of these vehicles failing due to insufficient movement and excessive exposure to sunlight on one side, meaning that they had just been parked in the vehicle park of some army base and left there. The out-of-date rations have been discussed earlier in this thread if I recall correctly, so I won't go into that. There are numerous more examples like this.

    The current logistics failure of the Russian Army isn't simply an operational issue with the units in the field in Ukraine. This is a major systemic issue, that will likely take years to fix, likely even longer given the current implosion of the Russian economy.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ultimately all that matters in the end is how loyal his submarine commanders are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,479 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Apparently, the "scum" and "traitors" are any Russian person who doesn't support the regime or who opposes the war (his reasoning being that such people are pro-West and that they would rather live in western decadence and see Russia humiliated).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    A peace deal next week will be an incredible admission of defeat by Russia and Putin.


    Hope it happens but in a country where society has been defined by the most jaw dropping savagery from the top down for centuries and a national Psyche built on sacrifice, resilience and sheer pig headed defiance against all odds I can't see it happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Chances have lessened. China seems embarrassed by the Kremlin dwarf, Russia's army bogged down in Ukraine couldn't take on the girl's scouts just now.

    Now it depends how desperate he gets, which is why we need to always give him a chance to back out with the least amount of embarrassment for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭wandererz


    My God!! The amount of crap coming out of this bald fecks mouth at the UN is astounding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭thomil


    More likely how good they are at shaking that 688 or Virginia class boat hiding in their prop wake. It's safe to assume that every Russian missile boat that leaves its base will have a tail the moment it leaves Russian territorial waters. That's how the US Navy operated during the Cold War, that's what the Soviet Navy tried, with significantly less success, off the US SSBN bases, and that's in all likelihood still going on. Granted, from what I've read, Russian doctrine is to send each missile boat out with a "bodyguard" likely in the shape of one of their Akula subs, but as lethal as these are, they're still a generation behind the Virginia or Seawolf class, and likely even slightly inferior to to the last 688is that came of the slipways.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭JoChervil




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,355 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    It all depends on china to be honest. It's annoying to be beholden to these despots just because you believe in social liberty and the rights of individuals. The standards that we hold western powers to sometimes hamstrings them.



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