F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

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F1 changing the rules about overtaking from "any" cars, to "all" cars.

What a mess Abu Dhabi was. At least it was entertaining because it was a total sporting fail and wide-open to accusations outright corruption.

Surely that rule change confirms that Masi had the power to do what he did. Sporting organisations tighten up rules like this all the time after an unclarity in the rules is exposed.

One rule change was brought about because it was open to interpretation. That's not Masi's fault.

You made a claim about F1 being open to corruption based on one decision. But ignored an equally massive decision from earlier in the race which came seconds after a radio message from a team principal and was exactly what that team principal said.

For what it's worth, I don't believe Masi made decisions based on what either team had to say, nor do I believe he made a choice for entertainment purposes. I believe when Latifi crashed, Masi made every effort to finish the race under green flag conditions even if that meant being flexible.

Toto and Hamilton get a very easy ride from media that we predominantly get which is part of the problem. Hamilton can angle every situation to suit him and nobody questions the hypocrisy of it, and Toto has not been asked if his radio message to race director about the SC mid race was appropriate given it involved marshalls on track. They won't ask the hard questions because they know the two of them will stop speaking to them if they do.

At Silverstone 2021 Hamilton and Merc were hard done by was the narrative they pushed. Goes 100% against what Hamilton was saying previously though.

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Lewis Hamilton criticised the decision to give Vettel a five-second penalty for colliding with Valtteri Bottas. Vettel was still able to finish ahead of Bottas despite the penalty, Hamilton noted.“Ultimately when someone destroys your race through an error and it’s only kind-of a tap on the hand really. [He’s] just allowed to come back and still finish ahead of the person that they took out, it doesn’t weigh up.

“He shouldn’t really be able to finish ahead of him, because he took him out of the race.”

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Anyway, Sainz v Riccardo title battle in 2022 please.

I mean, I offered you a chance to avoid the whataboutery trench warfare of what about this instance and what about that one, but you don't seem to be able to see it outside that paradigm.

The race director "no longer works here" and the rule was changed because it was a sporting disaster - top entertainment though. Great entertainment and plot point, just a sporting disaster. Sport is only part of the business model though.

That's a relevant fact in the discussion. But you didn't mention some other relevant facts like the one where the FIA acknowledged that all procedures weren't followed correctly and the race director has been fired (diplomatically he moved position but in normal people languag, he was fired).

How do those facts align with your position?

Yes, this is the simple explanation but obviously some people will claim to know otherwise

Hulk is in luck. Full race weekend at a time when everyone is new to the cars. Great opportunity for him.

All that shows is the amount of political power and influence Mercedes hold over the FIA. More telling is the fact that they chose to withdraw their appeal because they knew it didn't have a leg to stand on under legal scrutiny, far better to play their PR games in the media and to exert pressure to get even more compliant race directors put in for the future.

No better chance for a podium for Hulk. 😜

You'd have thought handing Max the title would have seen them content but no, still on about it 😜😉

Imagine what it would be like if Hamilton actually won.

I don't get it. Was it actually like that on the other car livery?