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MiSTer

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    MiSTer #2 has arrived from Taiwan, whoop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    PlayStation core has got accurate analogue video timings in the latest unstable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    So I've tried:

    • Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain
    • Alundra
    • Die Hard Trilogy
    • Soukyugurentai
    • Soul Blade
    • Castlevania SOTN
    • MGS VR Missions

    Soul Blade crashed once, but everything else works from the brief moments I've tried. I'd never played the PS version of Soukygurentai before. It feels WEIRD!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭randombar


    Hi All, cousin was telling me about this over the weekend.

    Just wondering where is the best place to order one of these? Also do I just need to board to get up and running, I see a few people ordering memory etc. too.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    The memory is needed for some cores, so it'll depend upon what you're running, but it's a good idea overall.

    For the addons I got them from https://misterfpga.co.uk/, and the DE-10 Nano from Digikey.com. The last isn't ideal, as it comes from the US, but at the time I ordered, there was quite the order back log for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭randombar


    So what do I need to get up and running with old Amiga roms? Telling the kids about the old sleepwalker game but need to show them.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    I run mine as an Amiga 500. Ironically this is because some older Amiga software doesn't work on my actual Amiga 1200...

    I have the fairly normal setup of DE-10 Nano, powered USB hub as the bottom layer (and the little USB to USB connector), analogue IO board on top, and 128 MB SDRAM module. I also have a cheap USB wifi dongle. I also bought the power adapter, and the add on y-split cable top power the main board and USB board from a single power adapter. You may want a copper heatsink and decent 40mm fan to cool it.

    Post edited by Spear on


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Also, Sleepwalker is on Steam:

    Might be a shade cheaper than a MiSTer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭randombar




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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Digikey.com. You may want to check around to see if you can find an EU supplier that stocks them though. At the time I ordered, it was them or nothing.

    I ordered off there, but it ships from the US, the .ie domains means nothing in this instance.



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,504 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    MiSTers are great little things, but they aren't cheap. If you just want 10 minutes of nostalgia off one game, then there's simpler, and much cheaper options.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭Shapey Fiend


    It's great to see PSX graphics on a CRT again. I was fooling around playing Wipeout at lunchtime.

    Some of the System 16 cores are cool as well. I don't know if I like Bay Route that much but Bullit has some really cool music. Alien Syndrome is one I'd never gotten around to playing either and its really fun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Other options for MiSTer in arcade cab

    € 179,40 | MisTer FPGA JAMMA IO Board Kit with custom shell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I've been keeping an eye on the Ultimate MiSTer website for a while to buy a pre built kit.

    Rather annoyingly, they haven't listed any on their setups in the sub 400 euro range for ages, but keep building Blisster kits.

    500 euro and then when you get to the checkout, VAT and postage bring it closer to 700 euro.

    Really wanted a plug and play solution to go with my Mistercade once it arrives, but I can't quite justify prices pushing the guts of a grand. Think I'll have to just bite the bullet, buy a De-10 and build one from scratch!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    If you're using a Mistercade, then you just need SDRAM and a DE-10 Nano.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭bugs


    I bought from Ricardo back when these weren't crazy money. He offers a great service but building one from scratch is really easy, really really easy :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,885 ✭✭✭Steve X2


    My Life in Gaming did a very long and detailed look at MiSTer the other day. I've not watched it all yet(over 2 and a half hours long). But if their past videos are anything to go by this will be worth a look.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Just got a notification to say my MiSTercade is in the post - and I still don't actually have a MiSTer setup! - woops!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Nope! :(

    Every time I went to order one the fulfilment date wasn't for ages, I think it's June if you order one now - been trying to find a more immediate solution that doesn't cost a kidney.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Jeez, I've a spare one doing nothing here, best of luck on your adventure anyways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Let me know if you fancy moving it along! Could even swap you something :)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    I rest my coffee cup on it. Just haven't got round to putting one in cab fully and one in the case and setup at tv :)

    Cost a pretty penny from Terasic Taiwan and customs :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    New core for the MiSTer, this one is developed by the guy who did the SNES and MegaCD core, who's working on the Saturn core, who's in Ukraine at moment, so pretty wild to see it come out.

    I have zero 32X knowledge other than it being notorious, but I'll grab a few games and check it out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    My Mistercade arrived to the door today, UPS man with his hand out for 65 euro, cash.

    No notification in advance so I'd no cash in the house.

    Infuriating, so close!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    So he kept it? Could be worse could have had the DE10 Nano sitting there ready for the weekend too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    He did indeed! Won't hand it over until I cough up the money.

    No problem paying (as annoying as it is) - just so archaic to have to hand cash over at the door. If anpost can have an online import duty payment system then surely UPS can too.

    But yeah as you noted, still no DE10 Nano so it would just be irritating me from it's box on a shelf anyway as I can't exactly do anything with it yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Can you take some pics of the extra board and mounting stuff that comes with v1.1 when you pay UPS?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Sure! Gratuitous pornographic boudoir style photos to follow shortly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    I have a mouser order in, have a notion of one in a cab myself.

    I see that a Sega 32X core was released, initial release and audio is a little funky (and in Doom, fireballs don't seem to move) but still great all the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Finally managed to get this delivered by UPS, Mistercade v1.1.

    Absolutely gorgeous looking board. Still don't actually have a MiSTer setup so can't test it out as of yet, bit hopefully I'll manage to remedy that in the not too distant future.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Thanks, @o1s1n, the daughter boards are a really great addition. I hope I can get them separately one day. For now, I've 3D printed a little stand to support the overhanging JAMMA edge part of the board.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Looks great - I might get something like that myself.

    Did one of the buttons beside the fan get a whack?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Good spot! Didn't catch that at all myself - wonder what happened there. I literally just took it out of it's bubble wrap before taking that photo.

    The little metal plate holding the button down had lifted, managed to seat it back down thankfully.

    Anyone know if this displays a bios or anything when you connect it to a cabinet without a MiSTer attached actually? tempted to give it a go now if it does just to make sure it's working.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    It won't do anything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Mistercade accessories now available separately.

    Tempted by the XL, but it all depends on shipping costs!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Finally ordered myself a DE-10 Nano board. Delivery not until the end of July though, booo.

    I've actually been waiting for an Ultimate MiSTer to come back in stock and was just about to pull the trigger on one after contacting the site owner - had a look at how you actually set the MiSTercade up - glad I didnt! DE-10 board mounts directly to it, so the Ultimate MiSTer would have been an absolute waste as I'd have had to take it apart anyway.

    I was thinking (for whatever reason) that you connected the DE10 to the MiSTercade via one of the DE10's video out ports, not the pins on the board itself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Will you need a Mister RAM module for whatever cores you are looking to run @o1s1n ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,248 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Yep, I am hoping they're a little easier source!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Plenty to be had. I'm using this one in my Mistercade setup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Got a VGA->SCART cable to see how the MiSTer looked like on a standard CRT. Unsure what I was expecting but its exactly like a the systems looked like with an RGB cable :D and if they didn't exist, it looks better than composite! Some cores have a composite filter for the output for the 'better than RF but worse than RGB' feeling :D

    Interesting one is that the Arcade cores output like they would via their RGB output and the rotation options only work for the HDMI output. Makes sense, the VGA output is raw from the core. Good to know if you wanted to use a MiSTer on a horizontal arcade cab to play vertical arcade cores.

    Re: RAM - yup, best to get the 128mb. I thought they are priced a little too steep until I priced up the RAM chips themselves. Doesn't make a lot of sense to make one as a one off at all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Yeah, the video output is (usually) timing accurate RGB that bypasses the scaler that sends things to HDMI via optional rotation and filters.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Then you got the main bit!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    Tbh, it's great when you think about it...but still annoying :) You might change the existing silicon with modern, but you are still stuck with whatever dip switches for flip/rotation of the old boards if you are using standard VGA.

    Doesn't effect most of the home consoles of course, fired up MGS on the PS1 on a CRT after playing it on a large flat panel TV over the weekend. It was like I was playing it in 1999. Change that year when quickly loading up SMW on the SNES or Sonic1 on the MegaDrive. Have to try out more.

    Yes, all can be done with the original hardware but who has the time to be faffing with power sockets, swapping scart plugs, where is that controller? Do I have that cart? etc.

    Just fun



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    Yeah i noticed the rotation issues alright, Some games seem to have a flip option.

    Also when i changed my monitor to vertical i had to 180 it in the Mister.ini file

    Easiest way is to have it on network and FTP to it, edit Mister.ini file.

    osd_rotate=0      ; Display OSD menu rotated, 0 - no rotation, 1 - rotate right (+90°), 2 - rotate left (-90°)



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