National Hurling League 2022 Discussion

What I find interesting is that the Sunday game went to the effort of slowing down and zooming 5X of a couple of hand passes to show the ref got one wrong.

But how come they never thought to do this with 100’s of examples where the ref failed to call throws over the last 2 years.

You're correct. I guess the reason they don't look at the throw balls that the ref misses is because it doesn't suit their agenda.

Too many players from certain teams are throwing the ball for it to be just a coincidence. Clearly they're being coached to cheat, putting unfair pressure on refs.

I couldn’t follow the play in Walsh park (on tv) with the yellow sliotar. If there’s a glare from the sun, it’s very hard to follow the yellow ball.

Not to mention that even if they do get it wrong occasionally, that's not a reason to just not enforce the rule. Refs get calls wrong all the time, but we don't then say they just should never enforce them, that would be crazy. At the moment, by basically ignoring the rule, they are getting hundreds of calls wrong every weekend, and it's a blight on the game. A few minor mistakes only noticeable when a commentator looks at a super slow motion replay seven times in a row is not cause to maintain the status quo ante, just because Anthony Daly likes Noelie the goalie or whoever.

Your having a laugh if you think DJ Carey never threw a ball.

Screaming about thrown sliotars and steps in hurling are as old as the GAA.

Have you ever coached the skills of hurling to children? From my experience children of any age could throw the ball but very few could palm it without many coaching sessions. There is NO skill in throwing a ball.

Nice try. As if I'm gonna waste a week going through every match he ever played to find a clip for ya.

There is more hand passing now which is also leading to more cheating on the hand pass. Also you have this modern technique of letting the ball roll out of your palm and slapping it on which is definitely on the edge of the rules.

I want it clamped down on but I don't think rules should be changed just implemented stricter and I also don't think this is something that is suddenly a problem over the last few years. I only mentioned Carey cause someone else did and was using him as an avatar for older players who were no angels just like the current ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LSaxqOzEbw

Some people refer to great handpasses by DJ Carey when making an argument for not changing the handpass rule. The handpass in this video was typical of DJ's style of handpass. He switches the ball from the hurl to the hand. This is a fantastic skill and there is absolutely nothing wrong with this handpass and nobody is suggesting that this type of handpass should be got rid of. We would have a much better game is this handpass and the switched hands handpass which Dj was also brilliant at would become the norm. Making argument for players not being able to release the ball easily is a load of rubbish and the reason were in this mess in the first place. The one handed handpass (throw) is too easy to execute, skill less and a blight.

Thanks Hrolf. That was the video I was searching for earlier, what a fantastic (legitimate) pass giving the ref no doubts at all about its execution

Can't share the link but richie Hogans goal in the 2011 all Ireland came from another excellent legitimate hand pass from Eddie brennan...can think of lots of excellent passes.from Henry/ richie power too..I genuinely believe throwing the ball is a very recent problem..that kilkenny team were no angels but throwing the ball wasn't an issue I believe