Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Hopefully a Javelin to the face

The Russians shelled a nuclear reactor. We've had two weeks of atrocities, multiple hospitals have been shelled, apartment blocks, we're not just talking about precision artillery, they are launching grad missiles at residential areas, using dumb munitions from aircraft. They have thermobaric weapons in the area and have used them. These are not all "mistakes".

Where will you get your fix of Sandy Hook deniers claiming to be foreign policy experts now?

I mean I get the skepticism. It's hard for the human psyche to accept some of the frankly horrendous goings on, and it's hard not to think like the devils advocate. Like that sedan that was blown up by the tanks, my first thought was that it seemed a bit off, and even though there was secondary explosions there was no burning or scorching of the apparent victims. I'm not trying to argue it's a fake, but these are the things that go on in your head, especially knowing that wartime propaganda is a real thing.

Seems they need to agree on what to say beforehand

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1501967258654060548

There is real risk for civilians to go out wandering like that. Earlier in thread there is a recording of a purported call between a Russian soldier and woman where a civilians came across their position in the woods. They were shot in case they would give away their position.

Foolhardy or ballsy Igor.

I have to agree with you, the speech he did before the invasion about Ukraine not being a real country would lead you to believe that he could decide the same about the Baltic states. It was chilling. Whatever about him arguing about security or bullshit de Nazification, a historical claim to Russian empire/ USSR land is frightening.

I didn't think he thought he would be stupid enough to invade Ukraine so he could be stupid enough to invade the Baltic states or decides he likes the look of some of Poland for his "security". I don't think he will. But then again I never thought he would invade Ukraine. I thought maybe go into the break away regions but not further. And I don't consider myself a cheerleader after Chechnya and bombing his own people and killing journalists I know he was a monster. Just thought he was a rational one.

on July 15, 2004, following a meeting of the Ukraine-NATO commission, President Kuchma of Ukraine issued a decree stating that joining NATO was no longer the country's goal - only "a significant deepening of relations with NATO and the European Union as guarantors of security and stability in Europe, question arises from this, did Ukraine sell out in order to get closer to the prizes,spoils and money that comes with being aligned with the west?

Of course they can win it. If they are given the weapons. The Soviet Union was defeated by Afghanistan ffs.

If you support arming Ukraine at all it has to be to win the war, for Russia to be routed and Ukraine's full territorial integrity to be restored. And for this to happen as quickly as possible.

Anything else is immoral and treats Ukraine as merely a pawn in a proxy war without any regard at all for the Ukrainian people.

I don't understand the point here?

Ukraine has wanted to join the EU for a long time.