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10-03-2022 05:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763708#Comment_118763708

Except it's not fake news.

We see you.

10-03-2022 05:32PM

Honourable mention to the Russophiles - without them this thread wouldn't have as much discussion/longevity 👏👏👏

Talisman · 10-03-2022 05:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763808#Comment_118763808

https://twitter.com/MazMorris/status/1501895845632954370

🤣

Diairist · 10-03-2022 05:35PM

It's difficult to find data on the 'shock & awe' bombing of Baghdad in 1989. Per Wiki "The Soviet Union condemned Baghdad's aggression against Kuwait, but did not support the United States and allied intervention in Iraq and tried to avert it ."

Per Wiki ' The Gulf War began with an extensive aerial bombing campaign on 16 January 1991. For 42 consecutive days and nights, the coalition forces subjected Iraq to one of the most intensive air bombardments in military history. The coalition flew over 100,000 sorties, dropping 88,500 tonnes of bombs, which widely destroyed military and civilian infrastructure. '

Yurt2 · 10-03-2022 05:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763814#Comment_118763814

Putin's demands are short-hand for military hegenomy of Central and Eastern Europe. He wants them to have a second tier NATO membership where Russian first strike advantage is baked in.

He's going back to the future with his demands.

Botrys · 10-03-2022 05:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763822#Comment_118763822

let him succeed conquering 'Ukraine' then we'll worry about him invading Europe

the guy got overconfident and got crushed.

All he should be looking for now is an exit from Ukraine, which i believe will be almost impossible to achieve at this point.

In his shoes, i'd skip directly to the part where i shoot myself in a bunker.

Snooker Loopy · 10-03-2022 05:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763814#Comment_118763814

A few weeks ago pro-Putin cheerleaders were breathlessly telling us there was no chance Russia would invade Ukraine and those who said he would - like me - were stupid idiots. How did that work out?

Putin and Surkov have literally talked about the boundaries of the imperial Russian empire with the clear implication that they want any land that was ever controlled by Russia to once again be controlled by Russia.

If that's your goal - and it is Russia's ultimate goal - you aren't stopping there, because you can't stop there. The rest of Europe is not going to ever agree to Russia controlling the land that once the Russian empire. So if Russia ever tries it on, it has to conquer the whole of Europe, hell, it has to defeat the US.

These are obviously Hitler level delusions, but again, that's where we are. We enabled this monster by two decades of backing off.

briany · 10-03-2022 05:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763815#Comment_118763815

"Can't trust anything the BBC or RTE reports these days. Fake news, the lot."

"Ah, OK. So what would you consider reliable sources of information?"

"Ah, y'know, the usual. Alex Jones, Breitbart news, some narcissistic pr*ck on Twitter with an Irish wolfhound as his avatar....The Russian Ministry of Information."

Cluedo Monopoly · 10-03-2022 05:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763778#Comment_118763778

African countries import a lot of their wheat from Ukraine. As always, the poorer countries will suffer the most.

Yurt2 · 10-03-2022 05:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763708#Comment_118763708

Not that anyone is ars*d, but if someone was keeping tabs of your contributions on this thread with an excel sheet of you peddling copy and paste disinformation and propaganda, it wouldn't make for pretty reading for you.

Get out of here with your claims of promoting critical thinking. Really really silly.

Wibbs · 10-03-2022 05:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763393#Comment_118763393

It's a lot of text because this is a complex situation that a tweet won't cover.

Ukraine would be "sensible' in settling for precisely what I wrote. Fighting to the last man sounds romantic but it's essentially bollocks. Give up the Donbas and Crimea. That ship has sailed and no amount of thoughts, prayers and bullets are going to change that any time soon and they're well rid of the Donbas IMHO. Refuse to disarm, but no NATO involvement. UN peacekeepers on the ground. Arms will continue to go to them anyway so that's just a face saving exercise for all sides. Leave the EU membership on the table but in ten years time to be revisited(which make no mistake would suit the EU too). Borders to go back to pre invasion Crimea and recognition of the tinpot 'republics' of Donbas borders. Again face saving all around and one less headache for Ukraine. They could demand reparations, but you can't take trousers off a bare arse and Russia is naked from the waist down now anyway. Russia buggers off home. They can leave all the military they like on the borders, soon enough they won't be able to pay for it unless spuds become currency and Belarus is ripe for change and I'd bet the rumblings are already starting there after this diabolical clusterfúck they were pushed into.

circadian · 10-03-2022 05:41PM

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Ok, but why does that justify Russia levelling Ukraine by blowing up schools, hospitals, firing directly at nuclear reactors and killing thousands of civilians in indiscriminate shelling?

I'm not too familiar with Neo-Nazi symbolism, and I have absolutely no regard for Nazi's but at the same time I'm not going to condone the mass destruction Russia has laid on Ukraine because they have a minority of Neo-Nazis in the country. That's for Ukraine to sort out.

Dohnjoe · 10-03-2022 05:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763348#Comment_118763348

I've seen countless photographs of e.g. US soldiers with far-right symbols are tattoos, not condoning it, but every force is going to have them. The head of one of Putin's paramilitaries is covered in tattoos of SS and third-Reich symbols.

Most European countries have more far-right political representation that Ukraine does. Again, all this is part of Putin's propaganda, which certain posters I've noticed are very "carefully" weaving into their "Putin is bad but" posts.

Dohnjoe · 10-03-2022 05:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763708#Comment_118763708

Snooker Loopy · 10-03-2022 05:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763720#Comment_118763720

It's very strange the way you talk about Twitter as if there is only one poster on it.

It's like the way the brain rot brigade talk about the entirety of traditional media as if it is one outlet.

Everything yis say is designed to destroy any trust in anything, anywhere.

For the benefit of Russia.

One of the pro-Putin cheerleaders here recently mentioned the term "critical thinking".

Everything Russia says is designed to destroy any sort of critical thinking in favour of blind obedience to what Russia says.

That blind obedience to Russia will always be dressed up as transparently fake "critical thinking". Those blindly obedient to Russia will claim they don;t trust the Russians either. That's part of the game.

The only time Russia tells the truth is when they tell you they want to kill you. Everything else they say is a lie.

mcmoustache · 10-03-2022 05:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763763#Comment_118763763

It's always in the interest of a cnut to give the impression that everyone else is a cnut too.

Always.

10-03-2022 05:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763861#Comment_118763861

So just accept getting raped indefinitely? Dead on.

This isn't a gotcha or trying to catch you out. If someone's punching you in the face and says "Right, I'll stop now, even though I wasn't punching you, go out and tell the world you made me do it. Then come back. I might hit you again, I might not, but you're going to do what I say forever" then yeah, I don't see it as a sensible option to keep on bending over for them.

If part of the conditions are disarmament do you really think Russia will see weapons stream in and go "Grand"? They'll drop some regular munitions on whatever munitions dump they hear about. What the **** will the UN do about it? 🤣 UN soldiers will literally stand by while men, women and children are slaughtered. Well they might do more than stand by and raise a barrier for them to go in and out.

10-03-2022 05:49PM

Ukraine is desperate to get NATO countries involved in the conflict, understandably so because it is their only hope. It doesn't take a genius to see that the most likely way, possibly the only way, to get this to happen is if Russia is seen to be carrying out outrageous atrocities against civilians

Therefore it makes sense to be cautious and diligent in validating such claims. Calling people pro Russian for being careful is not helpful.

Dohnjoe · 10-03-2022 05:49PM

For the masked apologists here: Russia is invading Ukraine in an unprovoked war of aggression, every single civilian casualty is on Russia.

Dohnjoe · 10-03-2022 05:51PM

Some good news, almost up to 1k pieces of Russian equipment confirmed destroyed/captured (with visual evidence). Less machinery that will kill Ukrainians.

Talisman · 10-03-2022 05:52PM

Interview with Bellingcat's chief investigator, Hristo Grozev.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlR3kJEBqnw

Some translation required. 😅

0:00 on the state of the Russian army: "It's totally chaotic, disorganized, and there's no communication.
3:14 about the goals of the Russian invasion
5:21 "Failures of Russian colonels and generals in Ukraine are not reported to Moscow"
7:21 "Putin swore in foul language about why it was necessary to spend eight expensive missiles on Vinnitsa airport"
9:00 "There is panic in the Kremlin right now. Scapegoats are definitely being sought."
10:55 "Russian oligarchs may kill Putin."
17:09 "Putin fears the end of the war, as he will have to tell mothers about the deaths of their sons."
19:54 on Russian protests: "Historically, nothing has changed in Russia because of the grassroots
20:32 "When will the refrigerator win over the TV set in Russia?
22:55 "In three months Russians will be broke".
24:39 "How in the 21st century can war with tanks be used as a means to gain dominance over territory?"
25:44 on the U.S. geopolitical pact with China and the easing of U.S. sanctions against Venezuela
28:54 On how China can save the local pro-Chinese population in Russia
31:55 "The chance that Ukraine will be issued weapons the other day to close the skies itself is over 90%. The chance of NATO closing the skies is less than 40%."
36:33 on whether Israel will give Ukraine the Iron Dome
37:48 "The war will be over in a week."
39:27 on when Putin will be called a terrorist
41:53 On whether Putin has lost his mind?
44:35 "Putin may use nuclear weapons against Poland."
45:50 on what Ukraine should do now

Dohnjoe · 10-03-2022 05:52PM

https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1501938378878558220

Wibbs · 10-03-2022 05:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763740#Comment_118763740

Oh for god's sake. That's exactly the sort of kneejerk jingoistic bollocks that escalates conflict. It's the sort of kneejerk jingoistic bollocks the Russians have been guilty of and are ramping up at home, or trying to. Now we have the Slavic nazis swarming on our doorstep ready to rush in. They couldn't even swarm into Ukraine effectively and are massively bogged down, can't achieve air superiority, or supply their tanks with enough fuel. And you're talking about pointing the big red button at Russia on top? They already know the West has nuclear weapons and woulduse them if the Russians did. That's been known for 80 years for Christ's sake. And it's got eff all to do with anti war, it's to do with facing realities on all sides and stopping the wholesale slaughter of thousands, or millions if you're keen to start threatening nukes. That's what putin has done. The twat. But no, let's add petrol to the fire. Brilliant, just brilliant.

And yet another one who doesn't know what genocide means.

10-03-2022 05:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763934#Comment_118763934

Wonder if my old school buddy moved home recently. 🤣

HerrKuehn · 10-03-2022 05:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763934#Comment_118763934

Well done Igor, it's great to see a guy catch a break in life!

Gatling · 10-03-2022 05:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763913#Comment_118763913

He bombed a hospital , two weeks ago they bombed a childrens cancer center killing several including a child receiving treatment,

Ukraine doesn't need propaganda Russia has repeatedly bombed hospitals , medical centers ,

It's a choice to bomb hospitals

Bayonet · 10-03-2022 05:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763913#Comment_118763913

Ukraine asking for NATO and no-fly zone knowing they won't get it, is a way to push the envelope for everything else. So if they can't get a no-fly, they want xyz weapons instead. They're aiming high to get the lower prizes.

Longing · 10-03-2022 05:57PM

https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/status/1501876813160669184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1501876813160669184%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpublish.twitter.com%2F%3Fquery%3Dhttps3A2F2Ftwitter.com2FBiz_Ukraine_Mag2Fstatus2F1501876813160669184widget%3DTweet

Wibbs · 10-03-2022 05:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763808#Comment_118763808

Yeah, citations please. How do they know the appartments are FSB people. Is that listed in CrimeaDaft.ie? And where's the before and after the war difference? Just because Russian mouthpieces are full of shít, doesn't mean we should take information that isn't Russian at face value either.

briany · 10-03-2022 05:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118763913#Comment_118763913

NATO will not get involved, no matter how much Ukraine pleads, but even if Ukraine gave a reason good enough, you can bet your bottom dollar NATO would have checked its validity from multiple angles, including in-person verification. They wouldn't be doing anything based on a Twitter video, whether the video was real or fake.

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