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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Smug, to me anyway, would be linked with the assumption of being right and proven to be. This prick isn't, along with the rest of the hard left (the 1 percenters) they offer absolutely nothing useful to the debate or society in general other than unicorn solutions


    His picture is firmly stuck on to the definition of cnut



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Wonder what the surprise will be (assuming there is one)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Boyd Barrett was told to clear off last week by the Ukrianian protesters. He doesn't see any future potential votes from them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Sure. If they had a Russian aligned neighbour, they might not be able toninvade. They would definitely change regime though, democratically elected or not. And if the US had 5 or 6 Russian aligned neighbours, Then the military zeal you say has evaporated, would reappear (it never would have evaporated if they had all those hostile neighbours in the first place).

    You seem to be thinking all this stuff is 20 years in the past bu Venezuela is a very recent regime change supported by the US. Venezuela isn't even a neighbour, its just within the same larger continent and they still toppled the government.

    None of that is relevant to condemn what Russia is doing (won't Putin be furious to find out that we both co dendem his behaviour)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228




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  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    Ah, stop (not really, it's just very concerning). Oil prices on the rise too. Commodities in general. The global economy is fooked, IMO.. so much so that the only thing that might save it by providing a boost to manufacturing, shortening supply chains, and addressing labor shortages is global debt forgiveness and/or (and I hate saying this), in Europe and the US at least, a transition to a war time economy which will refocus efforts on essentials such as non-tat manufacturing and agriculture.

    I don't know what the current trajectory of events means for the dollar's reserve status either if these sanctions push Russia and China to develop viable alternatives. So much debt around, so much QE that it feels like some pillar of the financial order we've grown accustomed to has to crack. I hope I'm wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭realdanbreen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    NATO and particularly the US, would wet themselves if they got a base in Ireland, especially on the West Coast.

    BA trained Concorde pilots out of Shannon for a good reason - thousands of miles of open water for the sub-sonic to Supersonic transition.

    Plus, Ireland is one of the most strategic, geographically speaking, countries in Europe.

    Could you imagine a Red Flag being staged out of Shannon...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    But all very reasonable in the eyes of Clare Daly, Mick Wallace et Al 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    lolno.PNG

    Hahahahaha .. no.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,382 ✭✭✭✭gmisk



    When is your slot on GB news?

    This is honestly like some Nigel Farage rant that the fat dad's down the golf club love.

    Now tell us how you fought in world wars (but you didn't) and oh blame migrants for everything, taking the jobs etc. Give me a "woke" young person any day over some stale old fart talking about "in my day".

    The primary people protesting in Russia also seem to be predominantly young as well, but you missed that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,382 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    A truly cutting come back how will I cope... Farage has moved on to Net Zero for his latest crusade/desperate populist grab, maybe you could fascinate and entertain your mates with that instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    It's Russia, a coup/putsch is always rumbling away somewhere even if it's only in people's heads. It won't be the first nor the last of these rumours but it is by far the cleanest solution to end this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Field east


    Ehether we are in NATO or not does not matter a hoot , WHY? The main adversary , going forward/in the long/very long term, is Russia/USSR. Throw in China and North Korea if you want. If any of them wanted to attack Ireland it can VERY EASILY done very remotely eg pushing the button for on or two nuclear warheads would do it - the country is so small. A cyber attack might also do it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    This was expected and less likely to be a huge issue as we head into warmer weather but EU countries will need to get alternatives in place by next autumn.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Can confirm. At least with the ones I know I've talked to so far. And they're sharing their side on their social media groups just as much as Westerners are. Though with noticeable differences; by comparison they've only a few talking points endlessly repeated and ask no obvious questions and brook no questions either. Yeah you get people on Ukraines side going on about Putin bots, but genuine questions are raised and responded to. The Russian side of things seems to consist of requoting Russian TV talking heads and pointing to useful idiots in the west(like that US retired trumpist general) and an obsession with nazis in Ukraine and Soviet history and old glories.

    My biggest takeaway down the years chatting with Russians - and this of course is a crass generalisation - is they're simply not used to asking questions. In the West for generations we've been used to being exposed to different opinions. We may have chosen to ignore them, or be too engrained/stupid to look at them, or even shout them down, like in good oul catholic Ireland, but we were exposed to them nonetheless. There was and is a constant fight for narrative. The Russian people really haven't been. It's nearly always been just one narrative. They might question that narrative, but it was the only one they had to go on. Not unlike elections in the Soviet Union. They had democracy and could be vocal and active within it too, but there was only one party to vote for, merely different candidates.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Actually, this is prime example of what I am talking about. Over-privileged, easily offended and thin skinned, with little grasp of what it is like to be oppressed, destitute and willing to put your life on the line in order to save your family.

    As many here are aware, I spent a lot of time in Syria ( among other places), during the Arab Spring and afterwards while the Russians decided to level Aleppo. I also worked on the border with Jordan, so don't even think about lecturing me about immigrants.

    You're exactly the type of person I'd love to frog-march through the absolute destitution, misery and fear that is Syria today. You'd stand there with your mouth open. Sure, we had some over-enthuiastic college students over to help. Do you know what we did with them? Sent them home, because it was all about them and a selfie beside a bombed out BMP or house.

    Also, you do realise this post is Irish Based? The "GB news, Nigel Farage and both world wars" arguments fall a little flat on Irish ears. Most posters on this forum are Irish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭threeball


    Yes three terrorist groups and a continous threat for 30yrs worked out brilliantly for everyone especially the 3000 dead people and their families.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭threeball


    If they land a bomb on nato territory it gives the west full permission to enter Ukraine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭rogber


    Not flippant, just realistic about what happens in war. Like I say, it's disgusting, but not surprising



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Who cares, integrity has a price. Besides there are things we can do like rolling back some of the greener initiatives. Those Chinese trolls aren’t properly informed as their internet is censored.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,382 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    You literally have zero notion of my background I am far from all those things.

    Then you prove my point with an "In my day" monologue.

    If you don't get my meaning with the GB news thing also see the national party or the Irish freedom party.

    Younger people are not the cause of this issue but yet you use this forum to go on a rant against "woke" younger people and their progressive attitudes. Older generations do this kind of thing constantly (I'm sure your parents/grandparents generation did the same).



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Barely and because the Soviets had massive support in lend lease materiel from the Allies, and the Germans were fighting a war on three fronts. If it had been just Germany against Russia not nearly so clear cut.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    GB news, Farage, National Party, Irish Freedom Party...

    I've never seen strawman constructed and knocked over so swiftly in all my days, even here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭threeball


    Putin wrote a book years ago where he described being a child in his tower block and chasing a rat. He followed it into a room where the rat was cornered. With nowhere to go the rat attacked and he ended up running away. He said it showed him that even the smallest animal can fight back when cornered and its a lesson he has stood by since.

    Now it's a lovely story and analogy with Putin seeing himself as the cornered rat that cab fight back but there's a couple of issues with it.

    Firstly it was irrational fear that made him turn and run. The rat was never really going to do him any damage but he didn't think the fight was even worth taking a nip over a bit like our nato friends so he legged it.

    Secondly he only ever saw himself as that rat and could never see it applied to others but even today the Ukrainians are that cornered rather and they will bite and scrape and do everything they can to survive. He won't be mortally wounded but he will think sustain some damage. Its remains to be seen how much pain he's willing to take.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭html6


    This channel gives up to date info on military events in Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Yesterday people were posting maps showing RuSSia had grabbed loads of territory in Ukraine and I said that really didn't reflect the real situation on the ground. The fact is the RuSSians have only taken the roads here is a map to reflect that. Until they have the ability to properly patrol the land around those roads they are seriously vulnerable to small units armed with anti-armour missiles like the Javelin.




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