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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭threeball


    Put the airstrip right on the border (unpopulated area). The Russians better be damn sure that all there missiles land where they aim



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, but my question still stands " what do the Ukrainians think of that idea?" After all, its their Country. Now there are rumors going the rounds about Putin being a terminal cancer case, also plans by one of the military top brass to "retire" him...so no one really knows what will happen. But for sure, there is no guarantee in the wide world that Putin will NOT press the nuclear button. He could decide that as he is going anyway, he will take the world with him...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    Russia have taken unilateral action in invading a sovereign state, it's been condemned by the vast majority of states in the UN. It's not straightforward like taking sides in a dispute, Russia have carried out an unjustified act of aggression and other nations have valid reasons for showing support to the violated state. There are no sanctions on Ukraine so there is no valid reason to object to the continued sale of arms to it, other than it makes the illegal invasion more costly. The system is working normally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Ukraine still have planes flying sorties, they obviously have places for the planes to land, refuel and rearm.

    You make it sound like every single Ukrainian plane and runway is destroyed and they would be used for kamikaze missions ffs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    If the Ukrainians continue flying jets at tree top level they will make it very hard to track and launch SAM defences against them, unlike the fate of Russian helicopters.



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  • Posts: 420 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Despite the pathetic attempt on here earlier to label me as a troll or a bot, I do genuinely care about the millions of Ukrainian refugees who will be coming to Europe, but I have genuine concerns about how we will be able to accommodate according to some estimates over 100,000 I don't think it's fair to invite people in only to have to shove them in hotels and most likely holiday homes isolated out in the countryside, we don't even have a proper functioning health service with our current population. I dread to think what it will be like once we add 2% to our population.

    This current crisis has been flagged by foreign policy experts for years Russia will never allow Ukraine to be part of NATO People on here and wider society need to learn to accept that fact from what I understand, Russia see the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO as an existential threat to their national security this is something that we need to learn to accept. The best way out of this crisis than I see is compromising with Russia. Agree that NATO will never expand into Ukraine and it will be a neutral country.

    But unfortunately, people here in the West appear to be whipped into hysteria by our media and completely unwilling to compromise with Putin and his government because he is like the literal reembodiment of Hitler or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ukraine had nuclear weapons and gave them up on an assurance from Russia it would recognise it's sovereignty and guarantee it's security. Ukraine gave them up in good faith. Would you agree that was a mistake and that Russia has acted in bad faith and can't be trusted?

    What are these lethal weapons the west gave Ukraine that threaten a nuclear state, and why are they worse than the hundreds of nukes in missile tubes in nuclear submarines that can wipe out Russia from almost anywhere? Horseshit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    The problem with that analysis is that it is wrong. Ukraine had made their intention to eventually join NATO known in the mid 1990s. Russia has already invaded Crimea and has been stoking a revolution in Ukraine for nearly a decade. The idea that Russia only wants to live in peace with its neighbours and it's NATO that is the big threat is ludicrous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The MIG-29 is an air superiority fighter and I'm not sure what role it can play if the Russians aren't flying.

    The promised Su-25s are ground attack and they would be very useful, as long as they can avoid the Russian SAMs.

    If the Su-25s are loaned then the Migs might be needed to keep them safe.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    We had a population increase of 2.9% in 2007, so it's not something new to us. Maybe ask those people feeling for their lives, living for days under constant bombing if they would rather a quiet little holiday home out in the west of Ireland or stay put?


    Comprise with Putin.... it was the lack of action back in 2014 which contributed to this war. You can't appease a dictator because we'll be having the same discussions in years to come when he invades another country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,285 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Macron and Scholz went to Moscow to "compromise with Putin". The creep was stringing them along and had already decided to invade Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Are you kidding me, they would happily destroy their own people to achieve their agenda, it means nothing to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Hey bill; Poland has taken in 885,300 Ukrainian refugess - which is equivalent to 2.34% of it's population. Ireland has taken in a number that amount to 0.025% of it's population. Do you still feel so smug?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Botrys



    You need to keep in mind that people in this part of the world are always used to get things their way, hence why they don’t really understand how the world really functions.

    what is happening with Russia is a precedent for them.

    give them time.

    —-

    concerning Putin,

    i think his objective is to simply destroy the military infrastructure of Ukraine,

    take kiev and take out their government

    then move all his troops to the south and occupy the whole black sea shoreline.

    what saddens me is that the whole thing could’ve been solved with proper diplomacy but nobody really cared

    the goal right now is to make sure to deliver as much blows as possible to the Russians making sure the price will be heavy not for occupying Ukraine but for challenging Nato/west at their game.


    we’re entering a new Era.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭josip


    If you look up the definition of cúnt in the Oxford dictionary you'll find his picture. We should send that silver-spooned fúcker off to the Donbass for 12 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    There will be no peace in Ukraine. They will be shelling each other for 20 years. The Ukrainians will never accept loss of access to the black sea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Danzy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The airstrip would be right on the polish border (not the Russian), meaning any missed Russian strike could hit Poland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    the germans are turning back the clock to 1933 as a result of Putins warmongering and turning Germany into a war machine again

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,393 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    WE could really do with an Icelandic Volcanic eruption right now, hopefully it could keep Russians planes out of the skies for a while possibly

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Just listened to Clare Daly interview on RTE. She's in absolute cognitive knots, embarrassing. Really, really embarrassing.

    Demands the end of the war, but demands nothing from Putin.

    "Promote peace" while handing over the keys to a sovereign nation under a hail of cruise missiles to a man and a despot that would have her chucked in the Moskva river for looking sideways at him.

    Unbelievably sh*t take.



  • Posts: 420 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I suspect that people's attitude will change once the cost of the sanctions on us start to really bite with increases in fuel costs and more importantly the price of food. There's also the question of what are we going to do if the lack of supply of grain from Ukraine to places like Egypt and other countries creates another huge wave of refugees in the south of Europe. I can't see the populations of Italy and Spain being too happy once they are being flooded with refugees from Africa. Or will we ignore the plight of these refugees because they are not white?

    I feel terrible for the people of Ukraine, but at the moment the only logical solution is for them too surrender or at least compromise by creating a neutral state in between Europe and Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    The Russians beat that army in WW2, I hope they are better equipped this time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The mig 29 is a very capable ground attack aircraft ,it's all down to the munitions it's loaded with ,the SU25 primary role is ground attack, but the mig29 has a multirole capability,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Talisman


    I wonder if the likes of this is an unofficial effort to funnel troops into Ukraine without 'putting NATO boots on the ground'.

    Biden is supposed to have shutdown such a recommendation in January.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I don't believe so. I think it will cause the west and non NATO countries to reconsider their options.

    What Russia has shown, is they can invade a non NATO country and the only response from the west is sanctions (I'm not downplaying the sanctions)

    There was a belief in Ireland that if we were invaded, the UK or USA would come to our rescue, that's now show to be false.

    If Russia decided to bomb or invade Ireland tomorrow, there's very little more sanctions they would face, but they would have a nice foothold in between 2 major NATO areas on the map (US/Europe)

    Covid caused us to consider out health spending, this war will cause us to consider our defense spending.

    As someone who was 100% against any kind of EU army, I would certainly reconsider it in light of what's happening in Ukraine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    A "neutral" Ukraine is shorthand for the Belarussianisation of Ukraine, not the Finlandisation of Ukraine - condemned to a future of poisonings, kidnappings, gerrymandering, the suppression of media, the end of their democracy, and the murder of political dissidents at the behest of the Kremlin. The EU taken off the table naturally. Neutrality in this situation is the Orwellian word for capitulation and national death for Ukraine.

    You also may as well gift wrap Moldova and Georgia for Putin with this formula also. Care to take this message to Tbilisi and Chisinau?



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