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  • Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you or I made a few bob on the side without paying tax, we'd be pariahs - the UK government and its associated government agencies have presided over institutionalised money laundering of the proceeds of crime from these Oligarchs for decades - it's absolutely sickening. That's why we need to ask a lot more questions around how have we arrived to where we are today?

    No wonder the Russians are surprised by the West's response, taking this money away- the UK has greeted their money with open arms and no questions asked for too long now -while it's correct to pose sanctions, it's a complete U turn - that also has to be said. The UK has only done now, what it should have done many years ago, so I wouldn't be praising them in any way.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Funny enough I have found the same with the couple of Irish people I've known who are pro Putin. Very much of the NWO/AntiVax/Great Reset/Bill Gates want's my precious fluids types. Though that didn't surprise me as quite the number of Russian folks I've known and a fair number of those from former Soviet states can fall into this conspiracy stuff too. One Russian I know through work refused to watch the TV series Chernobyl because it was propaganda and Chernobyl itself was a CIA plot to bring down the Soviet Union. Yup...

    If your recall during covid(oh we miss you now.. 😁) the percentage of those from Eastern Europe of the non vaccinated in our hospitals was high. Now I can understand to some degree Russians being dubious of authority as they're used to being lied to(yet have an odd reverence for the same authority), but Westerners?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    Except roubles. That you can use as toilet paper



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Subzero3


    Nearly all western governments are on the take from the Shieks to. Not exactly a haven for Human rights.

    If/when RU get a new government they will be back taking the rouble again.



  • Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cheers thanks- you know more than i do on these things. So at 300km in a country like Ukraine, you'd need to have a lot of drones quite close to the cities - I can't understand how that 40 mile convoy is still intact (although ailing by the sound of it)- they obviously don't have the troops and the weapons in these more rural areas or the ability to get there to do significant damage.


    @thomil - thanks for your reply also- very informative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    We've seen the tens of thousands of Ukrainians returning to their homeland to fight for its freedom.

    Any news on whether any of the Oligarchs and Russian officials kids enjoying their privileged lives outside of Russia have decided to return and fight for RuSSia?

    I suspect it's very few or none 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    Poor George and Bill must be the two busiest bucks on earth. Fixing elections, running paedophile rings, overthrowing countries, creating a man made virus and starting ww3.

    When its too daft for fox to pin on them you know you've gone full retard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Sweetheart jobs for retired with despot foreign governments in arms-length think tanks/energy companies/institutes need to be absolutely banned under punishment of prison time.

    Already pointed out in this thread, but there has been at least one former Irish minister who bunked off to Russia to work for a Putin linked company. Not acceptable, and there's every chance politicians tee up these roles before leaving office.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Ah, a Musk fan, I see. Lol. It's amusing how polarising Mr. Musk can he, with many dissenters knowing little of his operations.

    Personally, I think he's a bit of an idiot, especially regarding his Twitter trolling. However his companies, or rather his engineers, have been doing some pretty extraordinary things of late, especially at Spacex. His offer of utilising Starlink over Ukraine will be interesting if it works ( as long as the dishes don't act as "place missiles here.." neon signs. Also, with the withdrawal of Roscosmos from ISS operations and, by extention, the job of orbit adjusting of the ISS by the Soyuz, Spacex's Dragon will be taking its place, negating NASA's reliance on Russia.

    Spacex's Raptor and Merlin engines will also be replacing the current Russian engines in use across the board.

    Everyone has their good points and bad, I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭thomil


    The convoy is stuck. Both its front and its rear have been hit by drone, air and artillery strikes as well as some hit-and-run attacks, basically immobilising the entire force. That's in addition to the vehicles that had already either run out of fuel or broken down with mechanical problems. The trucks in the middle that are still operational can't escape via the fields next to the road they're on as they'd get stuck in the muddy ground, so the whole convoy is effectively neutralised as an operational military element.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    If the convoy is unable to move it effectively is neutralised. No point risking an extremely important weapons system on it. I'd be fairly sure that they are "nibbling" away at those units every day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    They need those airports once they are under Russian control. It's a very, very long drive to bring standard supplies by road and the gridlocked convoy shows the perils of relying on main road routes.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I've long had the admittedly daft notion that one reason why the British powers that be pushed hard for Brexit to their population was to increase such criminality and to reduce any chance of EU oversight on them.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,286 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    The images we see in mainstream news are that of heroic Ukrainians, stories of defiance, and victories over the aggressor, but I can imagine, and hope, that world leaders are looking at the darker side of war, images too shocking for TV, Newspapers, News websites to show. I've no interest in seeing such images, I'm not a world leader making the tough calls, but I'm sure they're subjected to those images daily, it's their job to look at such things and make calls on what to do.

    We can all sit here with our cup of tea, and cheer on the Ukrainians, but the truth is they need far more than encouragement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    I haven’t forgiven his paedo comments about that British man who was trying to save those kids. Musk was trying to come up with an insanely convoluted plan, while the British man went back to basics to solve the problem.

    It is truly astonishing that one single individual can determine whether or not a sovereign nation will have access to the internet and that he is not accountable to anybody for his choices… Having one single individual determine global agendas undermines the concept of democracy to some extent and adds to the burden of dynastic wealth… My apologies, I digress



  • Posts: 9,106 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To qualify the visa/mastercard news today in case there's confusion:


    1. If you're IN Russia, and have a RUSSIAN BANK issued visa/mastercard- it will still work, IN Russia
    2. If you have a RUSSIAN BANK issued Visa/Mastercard and are trying to use it OUTSIDE of Russia, it won't work.

    Many Russians who fled Russia over the last few days are now finding they can no longer access their accounts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Historically the Catholic Church and the offshoots of the various Protestant Churches of western Europe/USA/Canada have been involved in the wars on this continent through dissemination of information during masses but never really in direct conflict with the Orthodox branches to the east, could this conflict lead to be the birth of a battle of civilizations? Orthodox against the west.

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,262 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Probably they know that 10 to 12 Brigades of the East Ukranian army are totally surrounded ( blue circle in the East )

    ukr.jpg


    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭rubbledoubledo


    It’s amazing too , all the coverage here and everyone on their high horses, photo after photo of innocent people being killed, yet in past wars when other superpowers went in, and carried out bombing raids, and missiles going astray,hitting civilian areas, no one batted an eyelid. No innocent civilians in those countries . I always say when it suits



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    At least try to be original with your debate…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I'm not too familiar with the plan here. He is trying to provide Internet access in Ukraine and he is refusing to block Russian propanganda?

    To me that would be him not interfering with his own agenda, choosing not to censor surely?

    I mean I think he is a clown in terms of personality but he is right about that surely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Looks like the "peacekeepers" in Transnistria are not really peacekeepers shock! Looks like Putin is trying to drag Moldova into the quagmire.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    You mean like Murdock, for example? Or Mark Zuckerberg? Or companies such as Google, Twitter and YouTube.

    Hmmmm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    look, the provision of the internet to Ukrainians is good….

    My point is larger than Musk himself. Because of all his money and power, he alone can determine what information is disseminated to a nation. This point pertains to any of the super-wealthy.



  • Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looking at the sanctions. The west provides consumer brands and frivolous crap. Russia(and Ukraine) provide grain and fuel.

    I suspect realpolitik will take over in the west by summer and support, sadly i fear, for Ukraine will be dropped



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,096 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Interestingly it was reported earlier the Moldovan government are considering martial law from March 9th citing "imminent Russian threat".



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    It is not the purpose of the topic. But I baulk when one individual (whoever that is) has such a significant influence on what information is consumed by a nation or has the power to influence what is censored by a nation.

    Those in positions of significant influence who preside over the information-provision to a sovereign nation should be held accountable because of the implications it has for our democracy



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