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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    I read some stuff about Putin from a person (*) that is watching Russia for years. He's not living in the real world anymore, most likely believing in his own propaganda. It can end up in millions of victims or a nuclear war. Or both. Link (google translated)

    The number of refugees getting into Poland should go over 1M today. One of my family members is driving right now with 4 of them towards western Poland.

    (*) Krystyna Kurczab-Redlich, journalist, reporter, author of books about Russia, incl. repeatedly awarded "Head for the Kremlin Wall", biography of Putin "Vov, Volodya, Vladimir. The Secrets of Putin's Russia", author of documentaries about Chechnya, nominated in 2005 by Amnesty International and the Helsinki Foundation for Human Rights for the Nobel Peace Prize.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Subzero3


    I don't understand why the Russians didn't do this early on. Taking big hits when they could launch missiles unimpeded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I see more and more Ukraine flags going up and long may it continue. As far as I'm concerned I wouldn't waste tiewraps on the invading tyrants forces!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    Putin must be handing that stuff out to everyone 'cos that's the bullshit he's pushing!



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    What has been very noticeable for me is Russia's lack of air superiority in this. They should have had that sealed up in days. If you notice when Russian jets are flying it's in ones or twos and many seem to be at low level too. No mass coordination of aircraft like the US would have. Never mind that the US would have B52's going in in numbers taking out airports and other military targets and anti radar/SAM aircraft going in and AWACS to beat the band and drones 24/7.

    IMHO what we're seeing is that behind the fancy curtain of highly advanced Russian aircraft showing off at international air shows their airforce appears to be seriously lacking in usable frontline aircraft and trained pilots(and likely smart munitions). I remember reading a few years back that because of cutbacks Russian fighter pilots were only getting around a hundred flight hours a year and that was up from the really dark days when if you had a few grand you could go to Russia and get a flight in a Mig. Western airforces would be at least double that and with simulator time on top. I'd be willing to bet that if NATO did go in against the Russian airforce it would be a similar result to when the German luftwaffe took on the Polish airforce in WW2. A near total wipeout. We're also seeing their crap logistics and out of date ground forces and general intel too. So in many ways it's not unlike what you described, a colourised WW2 army on the march.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭jolivmmx


    I was surprised by the fact that London has sent no military aid to Ukraine and by the lack of sanctions versus other countries



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Don't let the name fool you, I know little. As far as I'm aware, Ukraine doesn't have any suicide drones. It's a pity, because suicide drones would be a real advantage in this conflict. The Baykatar returns to base to be rearmed. It has a fuel engine and it's range is up to 300km. There's a TB3 out, but I don't think Ukraine operates any.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Subzero3


    I think catching a western POW in person or seeing a western soldier kill a Russian will be easier for Vlad to sell the war to the population. The only way Ukraine comes back in this war is by pushing the Russians back South. The north is on the Russian border so Ukraine can only push back so far there. That's why the South it the real battle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,970 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    They probably thought they'd have the airport by now. Now there's little hope so they destroy it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I thought there was actually a sizeable number of Nazi sympathisers in Britain at least, not sure about France, although you would wonder. I think a lot of people felt that the treaty of Versailles was very unfair on the Germans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,703 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Oh the Gerries had no problems getting eastern Europeans to off their political undesirables. There were plenty of Ukrainians lining up to do their "duty" at Baba Yar, for instance.

    As for Irish people and how surprised they'd be at the causal bigoted slur you'd hear in eastern Europe, I have no doubt that they would be. I've had my own eyebrows raised by some of the comments said to me in conversation by Poles, Slovaks, Hungarians and Balts living here.

    Go beyond Germany and you have a mess of pretty similar peoples and they all have the animosities toward each other going back centuries. Poles dislike Ukrainians, Lithuanians dislike the Latvians, Russians dislike Ukrainians, Serbs dislike the Croats and so on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭thomil


    Not Bayonet here, but the Bayraktar TB-2 is definitely a reusable drone. Depending on what is needed, it can operate either unarmed, if you just need to keep an area under surveillance or with a variety of different missile loadouts along four different hard points under the wing for an attack role. They use a regular piston engine and run on the same type of AvGas that the Cessnas at your local flying club would use. It can reach altitudes of up to 8000 meters, putting it out of range of many MANPADS, and it can remain on station for up to 27 hours, so it's quite the powerful system.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Subzero3




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    One interesting aircraft currently operating just north of Kaliningrad is this Swedish Airforce "Korpen". Its a heavily modified Gulfstream used for ELINT or electronic signals gathering.

    It's normally intercepted by SU-27's from Kaliningrad, so worth keeping an eye out for it.

    Screenshot_20220306-131514_Flightradar24.jpg




  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you or I made a few bob on the side without paying tax, we'd be pariahs - the UK government and its associated government agencies have presided over institutionalised money laundering of the proceeds of crime from these Oligarchs for decades - it's absolutely sickening. That's why we need to ask a lot more questions around how have we arrived to where we are today?

    No wonder the Russians are surprised by the West's response, taking this money away- the UK has greeted their money with open arms and no questions asked for too long now -while it's correct to pose sanctions, it's a complete U turn - that also has to be said. The UK has only done now, what it should have done many years ago, so I wouldn't be praising them in any way.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Funny enough I have found the same with the couple of Irish people I've known who are pro Putin. Very much of the NWO/AntiVax/Great Reset/Bill Gates want's my precious fluids types. Though that didn't surprise me as quite the number of Russian folks I've known and a fair number of those from former Soviet states can fall into this conspiracy stuff too. One Russian I know through work refused to watch the TV series Chernobyl because it was propaganda and Chernobyl itself was a CIA plot to bring down the Soviet Union. Yup...

    If your recall during covid(oh we miss you now.. 😁) the percentage of those from Eastern Europe of the non vaccinated in our hospitals was high. Now I can understand to some degree Russians being dubious of authority as they're used to being lied to(yet have an odd reverence for the same authority), but Westerners?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,970 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭threeball


    Except roubles. That you can use as toilet paper



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Subzero3


    Nearly all western governments are on the take from the Shieks to. Not exactly a haven for Human rights.

    If/when RU get a new government they will be back taking the rouble again.



  • Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cheers thanks- you know more than i do on these things. So at 300km in a country like Ukraine, you'd need to have a lot of drones quite close to the cities - I can't understand how that 40 mile convoy is still intact (although ailing by the sound of it)- they obviously don't have the troops and the weapons in these more rural areas or the ability to get there to do significant damage.


    @thomil - thanks for your reply also- very informative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    We've seen the tens of thousands of Ukrainians returning to their homeland to fight for its freedom.

    Any news on whether any of the Oligarchs and Russian officials kids enjoying their privileged lives outside of Russia have decided to return and fight for RuSSia?

    I suspect it's very few or none 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭threeball


    Poor George and Bill must be the two busiest bucks on earth. Fixing elections, running paedophile rings, overthrowing countries, creating a man made virus and starting ww3.

    When its too daft for fox to pin on them you know you've gone full retard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Sweetheart jobs for retired with despot foreign governments in arms-length think tanks/energy companies/institutes need to be absolutely banned under punishment of prison time.

    Already pointed out in this thread, but there has been at least one former Irish minister who bunked off to Russia to work for a Putin linked company. Not acceptable, and there's every chance politicians tee up these roles before leaving office.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Ah, a Musk fan, I see. Lol. It's amusing how polarising Mr. Musk can he, with many dissenters knowing little of his operations.

    Personally, I think he's a bit of an idiot, especially regarding his Twitter trolling. However his companies, or rather his engineers, have been doing some pretty extraordinary things of late, especially at Spacex. His offer of utilising Starlink over Ukraine will be interesting if it works ( as long as the dishes don't act as "place missiles here.." neon signs. Also, with the withdrawal of Roscosmos from ISS operations and, by extention, the job of orbit adjusting of the ISS by the Soyuz, Spacex's Dragon will be taking its place, negating NASA's reliance on Russia.

    Spacex's Raptor and Merlin engines will also be replacing the current Russian engines in use across the board.

    Everyone has their good points and bad, I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,961 ✭✭✭thomil


    The convoy is stuck. Both its front and its rear have been hit by drone, air and artillery strikes as well as some hit-and-run attacks, basically immobilising the entire force. That's in addition to the vehicles that had already either run out of fuel or broken down with mechanical problems. The trucks in the middle that are still operational can't escape via the fields next to the road they're on as they'd get stuck in the muddy ground, so the whole convoy is effectively neutralised as an operational military element.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    If the convoy is unable to move it effectively is neutralised. No point risking an extremely important weapons system on it. I'd be fairly sure that they are "nibbling" away at those units every day.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    They need those airports once they are under Russian control. It's a very, very long drive to bring standard supplies by road and the gridlocked convoy shows the perils of relying on main road routes.



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