F1 2022 thread - see post 1 for rules

Has Mazepin left? He Haas!

Sky have a two-part doc out this weekend about how Hamilton was screwed by Masi in Abu Dhabi because Toto claims Masi was "turned" by red bull SD Jonathan Wheatley. Toto makes claims about the Jeddah "deal" when under a red flag.

They (Sky) are unbelievable, every effort being made to discredit Max.

Toto and Hamilton really are so easy to dislike. The sense of entitlement, but beyond that it's like they actually cannot remember their own words and actions when they don't get what they want.

Max cut T1 but a red flag came out, so the "deal" was to give the place back on the grid as opposed to a 5 sec penalty Presumably.

Sky are quoting Toto as saying Masi and Wheatley had a "bromance" and Masi was "turned" by Red Bull. It's very much aimed at discrediting Max.

Its like Toto never sent emails to Masi or was never on the radio telling him not to bring out the SC when it suited Merc.

Toto Hamilton and sky need to review lap one. They also need to review their own tactics in leaving Hamilton a sitting duck.

Verstappen was ahead on points going into the last race so Mercedes were always at a disadvantage strategy wise given that both driver not finishing would benefit max.

If they had pitted Hamilton, max would have been ahead on the restart but would have made it very very hard for Hamilton to pass as he could afford a crash.

Mercedes tried to steal the race on lap one by not giving the place back. When it didn't work out, Toto spat the dummy. No class at all and a low act trying to discredit max and his championship that he won in every measurable way.

Absolutely this. For all the skullduggery that went on, Toto was up to his neck in it. His comments today about never wanting to speak to Masi again I thought were poor. I always thought Toto was a shrewd operator with how he ran that team, but it seems he's not good in the face of adversity, really gone down in my opinion last season.

I actually feel F1 got so toxic over the last few seasons. Ive said it on here before, but so many fans now have that partisan football type attitude now where my guy = good and your guy = bad. I wonder if it's down to Drive to Survive and how they have invented drama and rivalries. It's bound to ramp up again next week with that release too.

On that note, haven't seen this posted here but FLoz has a new season review out and honestly his videos are better put together than DTS where he tells the stories of each season with video clips. He did a great one on the silver war between Hamilton and Rosberg, amongst others. Just started this now for my Friday evening viewing!

https://youtu.be/uH3KPDA1jQ4

Still rumours but can't see Fittipaldi in as he hasn't convinced anywhere.

Rumour is that Ferrari wants giovanazzi in, Alpine might want to give gp2 champ piastri experience.

Had to be done. As a driver he's no real loss to the sport and team in any case. The loss of the sponsorship could be a problem tho.

I think it would be amazing to see the other teams do a whip around to keep HAAS afloat until they get a new main sponsor, if they need funding.

Not sure how that would work legally but I think it would be great support from teams, let's be honest it's not like the other teams are keeping a genuine contender in contention

Pedro Diniz 😉

I kind of feel sorry for Mazepin losing his seat but it was inevitable. Reports are that Fittipaldi is to get the seat but I think Gio would be a better option especially how Haas basically wrote off last season because they were focused on the 2022 season

Same as before, allow all cars through or none at all. I'm delighted Max won, but Hamilton was definitely shafted in my opinion.

On Toto, himself and Horner were as bad as each other on the radio.

Steiner seems very confident that Pietro can jump into the car without many problems, they're already backmarkers so what have they got to lose?

Don't think Pietro brings money. Would bet on a Andretti engagement sooner than later.

When JW was onto Masi, Masi replied "just give us a moment until we clear the accident" or words to that effect. So he had, IMO already considered various options while the Latifi car was being cleared.

If its possible Masi was swayed by that suggestion then you have to accept he was swayed by Toto regarding the SC?

Both teams made suggestions which the RD implemented. However the focus is on the one which benefitted Max, not the one which benefitted Hamiltion even though it was what Merc/Toto demanded. This is a very deliberate attempt by Sky to discredit Max and his championship in every way possible.

Sky's entire focus is the Merc viewpoint.