Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

testtech05 · 04-03-2022 10:13PM

That doesn't look good for poor Shane be a huge loss

dockysher · 04-03-2022 10:27PM

To lose in that manner an absolute disgrace again like the Glasgow game. So many soft tries. We were lucky to get wins last two games to take away from how bad or really is

testtech05 · 04-03-2022 10:28PM

Am I right in saying after that we are really up against it to qualify for next season champions cup?

Wth the run in we have that was a game we need to be winning not to mind losing by 50

realhorrorshow · 04-03-2022 10:30PM

Probably the worst defensive performance I've ever seen from us. Repeatedly shredded by pretty standard phase attack, even off first phase and slow ball. Hard to know what the issue is, is it the system? The implementation of the system? The players?

Hopefully Delahunt and Murray are ok. Just a **** disaster of an evening all round.

b.gud · 04-03-2022 10:54PM

The biggest plus from tonight is that my youngest woke up crying so I was spared the last 10 minutes of the game

realhorrorshow · 04-03-2022 11:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118734091#Comment_118734091

Was it your own crying that woke them up?

jimdemp · 04-03-2022 11:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118733935#Comment_118733935

Connacht win a game or 2 and start believing the hype. physically Small teams like connacht cant be complacent like munster and expect to get by. Duggan cant scrum, Augier has been poor all year but seemed like a good player last year, Porter maul him in Dublin. Set piece always struggles with heff at 2. Connacht may need a backup 2 next year. Papaili looks like a huge loss given boyle lack of size and up down form. Centres had no interest.

RichieRich_89 · 05-03-2022 12:32AM

I haven't seen the game, but by the sounds of it the defence was bad. I've never really rated Wilkins the defence coach. Having someone of the quality of Nienaber or Ferreira, like Munster have had the last five years, could make a huge difference to Connacht's baseline performance, I'd say.

BleedGreen · 05-03-2022 12:46AM

Wilkins isn't the defense coach

Dave_The_Sheep · 05-03-2022 01:06AM

Jesus, what the f*ck happened?

sydthebeat · 05-03-2022 01:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118734846#Comment_118734846

Someone didn't look beyond Wikipedia, but are we surprised?

ShineyShiney · 05-03-2022 02:00AM

Well played Edinburgh, absolutely tore us apart. Once they got in front they hit the afterburners and we couldn't get near them.

A bad day at the office doesn't make us totally crap just crap today.

The team that lost to Dragons haven't gone away.

Utopia Parkway · 05-03-2022 02:58AM

Think that's Connacht's worst defeat in 12 years or so? Mad thing is they were 8-0 up after almost 30 minutes and probably should have been further ahead.

AccidentallyOnside · 05-03-2022 08:12AM

The sad thing is Edinburgh didn't even need to be good.

One of their tries came off first phase with their 12 just running straight and no one laid a hand on him......no dummy runners or change of direction.....just ran straight and there was a huge hole to stroll through.

That's not a systems thing (though that might be an issue too), that's just one or more players going totally off script.

Even when players were they we missed loads of first up tackles, made that Edinburgh backrow look like world beaters. Couldn't win a turnover, couldn't secure our own ball, couldn't field a high ball, couldn't win a kicking dual, couldn't hold onto the ball in contact, couldn't win a clean line out could barely hold on in the scrum. We were lucky we weren't playing a better team or we could have had 100 put on us, we were genuinely worse than the score.

Europe looks like a pipe dream at this point, and if you're losing by nearly 50 to the Edinburgh reserves then that's probably only right.

We know we're a better team than shown last night, but equally have to accept we have performances like last night in us too.

The next time we wonder why we don't get more players in ireland it's worth remembering nights like last night; you won't see a performance like last night from any of the other three provinces. It's not the losing that's concerning it's the complete capitulation, the total collapse of system, the lack of leadership....none of it is encouraging.

Few weeks off now......hopefully some good news on signings and some time to reflect on where we're going because under it all there's a good team in there somewhere.

jimdemp · 05-03-2022 09:41AM

Hard to believe Connacht won there last year with Daly at outhalf, Masterson in second row.

b.gud · 05-03-2022 10:43AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118734168#Comment_118734168

No comment

Dubinusa · 05-03-2022 04:38PM

The highlights are grim. Awful defense from Connacht. The couple of scrum that were shown were complete disasters for Connacht.

Connacht are a myster! They play great at times and are AIL level at others. To me, Friend must be the problem. I've not been a fan and I think he's out of his depth.

That's a good squad out west and yet they are awful sometimes. It's hard to imagine that type of performance.

Duggan is poor and Aungier has not kicked on. Dooley will be an upgrade for sure. Josh Murphy will add physical grunt and with Charlie Ryan coming in, they could have a decent pack.

Disappointing effort.

Bazzo · 05-03-2022 10:20PM

Jeeeesus

realhorrorshow · 06-03-2022 04:44PM

I see Shayne Bolton got a hat trick for Wegians at the weekend. AIL 2B just isn't the place to develop the likes of Bolton, hopefully there's an A competition in place next year.

ersatz · 06-03-2022 05:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118737061#Comment_118737061

I walked though a few of Edinburgh's tries on highlights and the defense was a shambles. It seemed like once E got a couple of scores ahead Connacht gave up. Whatever about Friend Connacht need to think about on field leadership, in a situation like that you need a few players who can set a standard and demand the others step up.

Treaty fella · 06-03-2022 06:20PM

Suppose Connacht have to support Connacht clubs but Shayne Bolton would be better joining Shannon and playing at least 1B

b.gud · 07-03-2022 05:03PM

2 new contracts to be announced today first is Porch, on what appears to be a 1 year deal. Next one will be at 5pm

Former Coach · 07-03-2022 05:27PM

I know his presence wouldn't have changed the Edinburgh result but why oh why is Ultan not being selected, at least in the 23??

KBurke85 · 07-03-2022 06:03PM

Two year deal for Matthew Burke.

More announcements in the coming days

https://www.connachtrugby.ie/burke-porch-the-latest-players-to-renew-contracts-with-connacht/

RonnieL · 08-03-2022 11:12AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118746835#Comment_118746835

I thankfully missed the game, and could barely bring myself to watch the highlights, so I feel for those in attendance (although Edinburgh is a great spot to drown some sorrows!). Bernard Jackman placed the blame squarely at the players door in his analysis on against the head last night, and from what I did see it's hard to argue with him. One piece of advice - if you're still hurting from Friday, don't look at our fixture list.

realhorrorshow · 08-03-2022 12:49PM

Well deserved new contract for Burke, his progression has been one success story this season. I didn't think he had the size/physicality to reach this level, very happy that be proven wrong.

briandebum · 08-03-2022 01:53PM

I think it's tough to lay blame at Friends door, our squad always looked lightweight before the season, just don't think we have the players to be honest. Especially when injuries inevitably strike and a few of the frontline players are gone.

It almost feels blasphemous to be typing it, but god I wouldn't even mind a season of Munsteresque low risk rugby with a solid defence & set piece. Whether that can be achieved with the current players and/or the current coaching set up is for people smarter than me to figure out.

Zzippy · 08-03-2022 02:19PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118750548#Comment_118750548

If we had a pack like Munster's we'd walk a lot of games with our current gameplan, Munster could score so much more if they played a bit more expansively. I realise I'm tping this after a record win for them at the weekend, but some of the games earlier this season where they struggled and didn't appear to trust their backs were awful to watch.

FACECUTTR · 08-03-2022 08:16PM

How many of our senior players are out of contract this season ? I know there are new contracts supposed to come this week but are we likely to lose any senior guys ?

Wegians89 · 09-03-2022 12:09AM

Would guess e masterson, Healy, TOH are all at risk. Dillane already gone. Robertson McCoy?

Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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