Home charge points (purchase/problems/questions) (See mod note post#1)

budhabob · 26-02-2022 09:10AM

Hey all, hoping to order our first ever ev today. Have a mid terraced house with driveway.

Ive been googling like mad, and remember reading an article at some stage (I think) that the charger doesn't necessary need to be connected back to my trip board, but can be connected elsewhere? Our trip board is at the rear of the house, but with the porch the meter and main switch is located.

I scanned through the thread, but it's a massive thread.

One other question, if I order today and there is 6+month wait time, can I get the charger installed and just apply for grant when I receive the car (e.g. Jan 2023)?

Thanks in advance

ted1 · 26-02-2022 09:48AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118695546#Comment_118695546

No. You must have grant approval before you install the charging point

Gumbo · 26-02-2022 05:07PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118695546#Comment_118695546

Chargepoint can be connected directly to the external meter cabinet as per IS101010.

Grant must be applied for in advance. Do it closer to the time. It’s not a lottery who gets it or not. Everyone that applies gets it once you have off street parking.

budhabob · 26-02-2022 06:17PM

Cheers folks, timing was more a worry of getting the car and having a delay for the charger.

ted1 · 26-02-2022 06:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118698436#Comment_118698436

i had my charger installed 3 days after ordering it. Turn around time is fast enough,

what you should do is check to ensure your tails etc. ( cables between meter and fuse board) are 16mm, otherwise there may be additional work needed that takes time.

Manion · 26-02-2022 06:54PM

Ok, but you need to complete the process within 6 months of getting you approval. You need to have the car and send evidence of ownership to complete the process. It's become very awkward timing wise as you could be waiting months to get an installation so you need to time application, installation and car delivery all the happen in the same window.

budhabob · 26-02-2022 08:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118698628#Comment_118698628

The house had a complete rewire in 2017 to industry standard. Would that mean I'm ok?

cunnifferous · 01-03-2022 12:03AM

Is it possible to get a charger installed for less than 1200 quid these days? (before the 600 SEAI). Was hoping to only have to spent a couple hundred above the 600 SEAI)

Gumbo · 01-03-2022 12:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118711576#Comment_118711576

I posted details of a company that quoted me 979 before the grant for an install last year.

No connection to them.

cunnifferous · 01-03-2022 03:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118711640#Comment_118711640

Cheers what charger do you get? My house is a simple install so I resent getting charged 600 quid for a couple hours work

cunnifferous · 01-03-2022 05:02PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118711640#Comment_118711640

Just called for a quote. 5 week wait and 1500 euro now!

Gumbo · 01-03-2022 07:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118714828#Comment_118714828

Serious!

ELCAT2009 · 01-03-2022 08:10PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118657553#Comment_118657553

Tesla type 2 cable arrived today...worked perfectly on my E2008. Thanks Gumbo...was great value compared what I could find anywhere else. Left in the boot now so will never be caught short 🙂

Manion · 01-03-2022 08:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715618#Comment_118715618

Its got very rough in terms of getting people to do anything. 40% cost increase in year and they have a backlog of work going out five weeks. Tell you all you need, That's not bad though, probably still a cost saving. I need to get the house heating serviced, the heating company came back to me that there is a 7 weeks wait to get an appointment, looking at 3 months to get a heat pump services.

Headshot · 01-03-2022 08:57PM

I also got quoted 1500 for an install (charger included in price)

Cyrus · 01-03-2022 11:03PM

Now that electric Ireland appear not to be doing the eo for 1200 that is a lot of competition gone out of the market

Gumbo · 01-03-2022 11:16PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118715796#Comment_118715796

www.carcharger.ie also done a pulsar wallbox with load balancing for me in November for €1199. Then got the grant back. Might be worth calling them.

ongarite · 01-03-2022 11:31PM

You can buy the Wallbox Pulsar Plus from Amazon Spain for €623 delivered. Link below is white box with 5M cable & type 2 connector.

https://www.amazon.es/Wallbox-Pulsar-Cargador-el%C3%A9ctricos-Potencia/dp/B07KN5BP8Z/

Wallbox are Spanish based company I think.

Should be able to get electrician to install it for less than €600 IMO.

banchang · 02-03-2022 01:15AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118643933#Comment_118643933

banchang · 02-03-2022 01:19AM

I’ve had a Zappi v2 installed.

Can I use the MyEnergi app with it ? I don’t have a MyEnergi hub, only the Zappi EV charger unit.

if yes, when registering the app, it asks for the Registration code of the unit - I can’t find that on the information screens of the Zappi. I have the Serial number, but not the Registration code.

Thoughts appreciated.

cromelex · 02-03-2022 11:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118716962#Comment_118716962

Do you know if you can claim the grant if you buy the charger directly and get an electrician to install it?

Might be an option if it turns out cheaper.

I will need one installed in a new build soon and the place is already prepared to have the charger installed (dedicated cable from main fuseboard to outside wall) so the installation itself should be rather simple.

THE ALM · 02-03-2022 11:18AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118717483#Comment_118717483

You will need the hub for the use of the app which is where the registration code is.

The hub is also required for software updates as well so might be worth looking a getting one.

Some electrical wholesalers have them which is where I got mine and was slightly cheaper than buying direct.

Manion · 02-03-2022 12:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118718371#Comment_118718371

You can supply your own charger but you need get a registered electrician who'll certify it. You won't get a grant without the certification. It's a point people often miss is that you're paying for the cert as much as anything. Crowd who did ours had all the gear to do the impedance checks and fault checks and whatever else needed and to record the measurements on the certification form. You'll find a lot of electricians unwilling to do paper work of any form for nixers. We initially tried to go down this route as we know a guy fully RECI registered, but he said not way to the paper work.

Quin_Dub · 02-03-2022 04:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118714828#Comment_118714828

That's a big increase in prices.

I got my EO unit installed by Electric Ireland last May and it was 1100 before the grant.

cunnifferous · 02-03-2022 04:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118698008#Comment_118698008

Can you highlight the part of IS101010 that deals with the wiring to external meter cabinet? My electrician thinks this is illegal! As my fuse box is in the middle of my home I'm hoping it can be wired into the external meter cabinet directly!

sumo12 · 02-03-2022 04:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118720704#Comment_118720704

Change electrician so!

Sorry, I'm being a smartass. Yes it can be connected inside meter box. Nothing else can be connected in there. External fuse box must be installed outside meter box, beside charger. I posted on it a few pages back.

Lots of guys have installed mini fuse board inside meter box and then an isolator outside beside the charger. Seems this was allowed for about a month from March 2021 to April 2021. From April 2021 you can connect to the supply inside the meter box but not install anything else in there (ESB rules)

This is the gospel as I was told it...

prosaic · 02-03-2022 05:42PM

But where can we find the true gospel written down?

An electrician I talked to said the ESB can serve a notice saying they are not happy with xyz being in the box but that's about as far as it goes. He said the box is your property but ESB have the power to get annoyed (my wording).