Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I see there's mention of Russian "draft dodging" in this article, and seems to be reminiscent of a lot of Americans not wanting to go to Vietnam all those years ago.

Ukrainian tractor 'steals huge Russian tank' in footage shared by MP - Daily Record

Its an interesting one ,as long as they are Ukrainian aircraft and pilots there for Poland isn't attacking , but if Russia or Belarus decide to hit Poland article 5 gets triggered

They're the ones using the War in Ukraine on social media and and elsewhere to try and push the idea that the shortages and the high price of natural gas are all down to the current conflict and nothing to do with the ongoing gp policy of stopping gas importation and exploration.

It has already been recognised by practically everyone that counts in the EU (except our own gshites that is) that natural gas is needed at least in the short term to help stabilise the problems of renewable energy production which is woefully unreliable and which even more of the same renewables won't help with that unfortunately.

And what do our own green party do? Shut off the possibility all exploration of natural gas here and gloat about it Its quite clear the green party don't give a fcuk about anyone and that was made even clearer when two of own green party comrades MEPS decided to abstain from condemning Putins invasion of Ukraine.

of course , I cherry picked them - I was making a point to counter arguing the nonsense that Putin was the new Hitler and to highlight (I was highlighting....see....) that our friends in NATO (in particular Uk and USA) were far from the heroes we (and our media / Politicians) make them out to be .

I didn't go into stalin, mao or other CIA secret operations in South/Central America either.... or Somalia or Rwanda - plenty skipped over... I'm not listing conflicts in the 20th / 21st century - you can watch the history channel for that - cos I'd be here all week.

You may be right on this one.

Who knows what'll happen in the short-term, but in the long-term Putin has done irreparable damage to Ukrainian relations. Instead of bringing Ukraine closer into the Russian orbit, his actions will only push the country towards the EU. What's worst for Russia is that for the first time since I can't remember, Europe is completely united in support of Ukraine, even Orban's Hungarian government has backed Ukrainian membership to the EU.

My guess is that at some point Ukraine will become an EU member and this war will accelerate the process. It's hardly a difficult choice for the average Ukrainian to make. Do you go with the lads killing countrymen and destroying your cities, or the lads who are taking in your refugees and providing financial/military support?

They’re the types that sicken me the most- happy to leach off the opportunities and amenities of a democracy but still cheer lead the dictator in Moscow (that they chose not to live under).

Russia is a state like any other, there is no reason to think it’s ‘concerns’ about its sovereign neighbours or the expansion of NATO gives them a pretext for a new era of imperialism. They are no more entitled to act on real or imagined concerns with military force than Belgium or Botswana.

There’s an awful stench around here from the idea that Russia is some form of legitimate counterweight to US and EU power. It’s just a large banana republic and a rogue state.

Poland and NATO head Jens Stoltenberg just clarified that there will be no deliveries of arms by Poland into Ukraine, same for planes.

Its up to Ukrainians to move them over the border, NATO members will not.

I have to say there is alot of denialism in the Irish Greens though. We need energy from somewhere. We need to dispose of waste. For example I recall the Green Party overruling the Dublin City council & blocking Dublin's waste incinerator getting built for many years while they had a ministerial seat and ability to do so but they didn't seem to have other answers or solutions for what should be done with the waste, they just didn't like it and didn't want Dublin burning it (the fact it was to be located in a minister's constituency afair may have also had something to do with it).

Yes, they are perfectly right about the dire need to "decarbonise" the economy but the Irish Green party anyway really doesn't seem to get that we will still need energy from somewhere, the technology to get it all from renewable sources is not there yet, and we will also need to do "dirty" stuff like get rid of waste. We can't go back to the paleolithic now and dispense with modern energy hungry society, the road only runs one way.

The Russians are going to use thermobaric weapons. That's when the real horror starts. But yes, there are evil people in all these camps, nato, America, Russia. It is more complex than 'goodies and baddies'. I've been saying so in this thread. The uber plan is more complex than most people are willing to believe. But Putin is a pure bad ass.

I know that visually Putin is starting to look more and more isolated, the long tables, ministers across the room etc. But as they leave the room are all his Generals and ministers chatting and saying 'This is a great idea, the way forward' or are his war cabinet thinking 'this is a really bad move'.

Is there any possibility of a mutiny in the higher orders of Putin's regime?

Even they have given up that pretext. Especially as Ukraine didn't seem to be about to be joining nato and they have just brought a lot of nato weaponry very close to their doorstep with this invasion.

More about the nazi excuse these days from what I can see.