What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

All of those are essentially property businesses born out of daddy’s business.

Trump models a success come on he closed that 5 years ago and if it was doing anything other than having access to gorgeous women it would still be going.

the apprentice - he was a reality tv star it was not created by him

Maybe the Ukraine is "woke".

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Looked at old poll data

Trump playing second fiddle to Putin for 4 years, really ?

Remind me again what aggressive actions Putin took in Trumps 4 years of office ?

Remind me what President urged the other countries in the Nato alliance to increase their contribution to 4% of GDP ?

In 2016, non-U.S. NATO members spent $262 billion on defence; in 2020, they spent $313 billion. I wonder why that was ???

Remind me who told Putin that he would bomb Moscow if Putin invaded Ukraine ?

Remind me who supplied lethal weapons support to Ukraine, a move that former President Barack Obama had been unwilling to take ?

Who added further sanctions ?

Who expelled dozens of Russian diplomats ?

Despite Trumps public admiring words for his Russian counterpart, his administration held a tough line on Russia.

Had there been no Mueller investigation, Trump may have had more leeway to make overtures to Putin, but it would still have taken a drastically different Congress and major changes in staff appointments to make it a reality.

Remind me who removed the sanctions on the Nord 2 pipeline last year, who shut down the Keystone pipeline and increased the US dependancy on Russia for oil ?

Remind me who made a complete balls of the Afghanistan withdrawal and demonstrated to the world what a pussycat the US was ?

Remind me who inflammatorily called Putin "a Killer"

Remind me under what president the military has wasted 6 million man hours on "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion” training, including critical race theory.

There is only one thing a bully is afraid of that and thats a bigger bully, Putin did nothing on Trumps watch because of Trumps unpredictability. He was after all viewed as mentally unstable by the KGB.

He waited for Joe 101 to take over.

Also remember when trump displayed his invertebrate nature in Finland when, despite all his intelligence agencies confirmed it, he wouldn't say that it was Russia that influenced the 2016 election. You could say he's hard on putin, but that would be a different kind of hard

I simply ignore the ramblings of people who pull out the "woke" card. It's the laziest, easiest comment to pull out and seems to cover everything. It's almost like that episode of The Simpsons with Lucy Lawless at a comic-con:

Well what about... "A wizard did it"

And this? "A wizard did it"

Well what about your opinions on.... "Woke culture distorting facts"

And on this totally unrelated and diametrically opposite situation? "Woke"

Watch:

• Trump's support of Russia? "Woke"
• Trump's support of invasion of Mexico? "Woke"
• Trump's sexual assault of women? "Woke"
• Trump's instigation of terrorist attack on Capitol? "Woke"
• Trump's statement that POWs are "Losers"? "Woke"
• Trump's statement that white supremacists are "Fine People"? "Woke"

See how easy that is? So instead of coming out with any sort of thought out POV, they bring out this universal, lazy, catch-all phrase that they don't even understand.

I mean we won't get their opinion on trump's history of sexual assault. We won't get an opinion on trump's (A draft-dodger) belief that American Prisoners of War are "Losers". We won't get an opinion on trump's suggestion that the US send tanks into Mexico. We won't get an opinion on his support of white supremacists or his terrorists who stormed Capitol building.

Instead they will go "Are you STILL on about that?" while also spouting proven lies about the election being stolen. They will point to allegations of Ukrainian money going to Biden (And trump's attempt to halt the supply of weapons to Ukraine. Let's also remember trump has blood on his hands. Denied Ukraine assistance and cheered on Putin. What happened to trump then? Oh yeah...... . While also not mentioning trump's HUGE reliance on Russian banks.

You woke libtards are the wokiest bunch of woke libtards who ever woked a woke

So yeah: Woke Card=Idiot Card

You may not be surprised in the slightest to hear that this is exactly Tucker Clarson's sentiment:

Quote:

Carlson was roundly condemned, but he wasn’t alone. Steve Bannon, Donald Trump’s sometime adviser turned podcast host, has praised Putin for being “anti-woke”, for not flying pride flags, and for his hostility to trans people.

He also flipped out when Obama dismissed a number of Russian diplomats.

Let's not forget Helsinki of course. Such a beaten and whipped man....

Yeah, Helsinki was a disgrace. Obviously, because Trump kept everything secret we will never actually know what was discussed or agreed, but his body language was very telling. Compare his body language with Putin with how he pushed past the Montenegro PM at NATO.

One was clearly alpha male, I'm the most important and with Putin he was head down, subservient and whimpering. Even to the point that when asked about who he choose to side with, his own country and fellow Americans, or the leader of one of their main advisories, he couldn't bring himself to stand up for either himself or his country.

And yet there are posters on here trying to claim that Trump was anything other than a complete failure, and in fact probably worse. You can forgive someone for making wrong decisions, for not being good enough, but to blatantly side against your own country should have been the final straw.

Well, if you are going to believe that a (dead) JFK Jnr is going to run as running-mate with Trump in 2024. If you are going to believe that Covid vaccines inject nanobots so Bill Gates can track you. If you are going to believe that 2020 election was stolen.... Then you are going to believe fox news and its partners such as RT. This is their core audience (Certainly fox's)

Kamala Harris the intelligent, well educated, successful woman called "idiotic" by a some random Trumpist on boards 😂 The comedy never ends with you guys.

Trump does agree with Putins actions, he said so. To think this is Bidens fault one has to think that Putin only thought of this recently. Yet, he invaded Ukraine before.

Trump gave him all the encouragement he needed. He created a rift in NATO, he showed that he was more than happy to withhold weapons to Ukraine, he bloody well handed over intel directly to Russia for goodness sake from Israel.

Trump had already agreed on the withdrawal from Afghanistan, so Putin already knew that America was pulling back, and Trump continued to drive the narrative that the US no longer cared about European defence and that American needed to bring all its troops home.

All of that tells Putin that America is not ready for a fight. That it will give in. Couple that with Trump given NK pretty much everything they wanted (international recognition, direct negotiation as equals) without them having to give up anything and Putin can see that America is weak. Putin assumed that Biden would be too, probably believing all the Fox News nonsense about him being senile, and that Europeans were completely divided.

Putin didn't have to attack Ukraine during Trump time, as he knew that Trump would never do anything to cause him any trouble. This war is all about Putin trying to get what he can to stop the stronger US/European alliance from reforming. Why would Ukraine want to join a NATO being attacked by Trump. But now they see Biden is leading a stronger US, a stronger NATO and a more aligned Europe, he needs to do something.

This line that Putin didn't attack while Trump was in office is not the win that you seem to think it is.

This is effectively the I hate Trump thread, you arent going to get rational and objective discussion on here from those guys.

Trump= bad is all they see, he has no redeeming factors and did nothing positive whilst in office .

This despite the fact that Trump was a Democrat for most of his life and alot of his policies were similar to those of the Democrats.

No, because then he would have to deliver to lizard people elitist Satan-worshiping democrat pedophiles.

To be honest, I don't even think fox would take him. Not because they don't agree with him (Hell, they MADE him). But simply because he is incapable of talking about anything but himself. Even in that puff-piece where he suggested invading Mexico, he started his reply with his BAU lie about the election being stolen.

How could trump have a show that wasn't 100% about the election being stolen?

"Well President Trump, what do you think about these uppity homosexuals? Should they have rights? "Well, let me state that the election was stolen by woke homosexuals"

"Well President Trump, what do you think about the fine people of "Unite The Right"? "Well, let me state that, despite, y'know, these fine people, they tell me... I don't know... I'm just saying... despite these fine people voting for me, maybe they should have voted in other states, there are ways, I'm just saying, Hilary did it and Obama and Sleepy Joe, they, y'see, the election was stolen. I have MANY people saying, you don't, you can't, my people, they say it was stolen, OK"

"Well President Trump, can you give us your opinion on Northern Ireland?" Well, the Irish, they love me there really, they really do. I have golf courses there. You should see them. Wonderful. Their president, he said they were the best courses in Europe. He said that! But y'know, they, love me too because I bring so many jobs there and brought peace. You don't see Hilary bringing peace there. Or Obama Or Sleepy Joe. I, well, the Irish are ungrateful, they, y'see, their groups, you know who, they rigged the Irish American vote against me. And Johnson, a very good friend and handsome man. Models himself on me. He told the Irish, you vote for trump or there, y'know"