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Are there any credible conspiracy theories?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Not a cop out in the slightest.

    Information is fully available, but people who want genuine information don't come to conspiracy theory forums.

    You are claiming or pretending to claim that 9/11 was an inside job, okay, you are being provided an opportunity to explain the conspiracy, but you don't seem keen on that. No conspiracy, nothing to discuss. Engineering stuff you don't understand about buildings and fire? Go to an engineering forum or go read any of the reports.



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ahh right. You were trying to make a joke. I see.



  • Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Are they are that actually hold-up if you take a closer look?


    There are hundreds, if not thousands, of true conspiracy theories, or theories that turned out to be true. The difference between these actual, provable ones and the rubbish posted here is that they were exposed after the fact, often by the very MSM websites that are much derided by the average CT loonies. I've never even heard of one that was first rumoured by CTers, then subsequently proven to be true. Here's four from the past few years alone.


    Trump administration pushed to expose as many people as possible to Covid in order to achieve herd immunity faster than natural progression

    Source

    Dr's surgeries in the US used software that was unnecessarily prescribing opioids after the opioid drug company did a secret deal with the software manufacturer

    Source

    20+ Diplomats in Cuba developed brain injuries for no discernible reason

    Source

    "kids for cash" - At least two judges in the US were accepting bribes from private prisons for harsher sentencing of kids in Pennsylvania - including slagging the vice principal of their school on MySpace

    source



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    And the user conspiracies on this forum for the last 10 years, can't find a single correct one



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Notice how that when you compare real conspiracies that happen and the ones being proposed here, there's this massive disparity in scale.

    Conspiracy theorists never seem to suggest theories along the lines of the ones that $hifty points too.

    It's never a small group of people in power abusing that power and bad systems to get money. It always has to be giant global conspiracies that involve multiple governments over the course of years using sci-fi technology or wacky schemes to take over the world yet also like leaving clues for internet detectives.


    It's simply because real conspiracies aren't as interesting. They're more complex, sometimes difficult to understand and don't involve any exciting elements. They don't have snappy clues that can been presented in youtube videos under a minute. They don't generate gotcha questions you can use to sound clever. Often times they're just depressing and highlight broken systems, which isn't as fun as pretending to expose a giant evil plot by supervillains.


    There's even reasonable versions of theories like 9/11. But because they don't involve secret demolitions and "analysing clues" from random quotes, no conspiracy theorists actually propose them.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    It can't be true, it's not what we're used to 🙂🙂



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No it can't be true because what you claimed was false and you aren't able to defend it.


    Why do you think people would be convinced by your posts so far?



  • Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It can't be true because it doesn't make any sense, there's no evidence for it, you don't even believe it yourself, you can't even explain it properly yourself and it's not true.

    FTFY



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    No one asked you to engage with me, it's obviously something you do routinely but nothing wrong with that, glad you didn't think I was calling you a nuisance (whichever of ye it was)

    Onwards & upwards 👍👍👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    King Mob & $hifty both joined in April, 2006

    OMG it's another conspiracy, I can spot them anywhere 🙂🙂🙂

    I'll excuse myself again from this thread now (it's courteous but there's bound to be a pseudo-psychological comment to follow)

    👍👍👍



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  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yup. Again questions dodged, nothing of substance provided.

    Another demonstration of why there are no reasonable conspiracy theories or theorists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    This is all about your ego and a hope that the written expressions of your thoughts seem superior to mine. Perhaps others will notice your lack of imagination and your fear of the vulnerability that would accompany any hesitant step forward.

    I doubt that anyone thinks I'm taking you seriously, you believe that office fires bring down skyscrapers 🙂🙂🙂

    Must try harder 🎠🎠🎠



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    But dude it doesn't have anything to do with ego or what I can imagine.

    I'm asking you to answer very simple questions about what you believe. You keep showing that you're unable to answer.


    And yes, fires can take down buildings, this is what evidentally happened.

    Do you have an alternative?


    Also you claimed (falsely) that one of the people behind the conspiracy outed himself and admitted it on camera on the day on live TV.

    This is an extremely silly thing to claim. You know it's a silly thing to claim because you keep trying to avoid it.

    Why would people take you seriously when this is what you are claiming?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,945 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I doubt that anyone thinks I'm taking you seriously, you believe that office fires bring down skyscrapers 🙂🙂🙂

    and you are unable to provide any alternative that doesn't require silent explosives.



  • Posts: 25,874 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Might as well br arguing for the space laser theory. Far more plausible than secret explosive demolition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I'm enjoying this, I feel you may be used to fatiguing people by entangling them.

    What's a "space laser" ? Have you been looking at comics ?

    Perhaps you're clumsily referring to a satellite mounted laser. Everywhere is space really, if 3 dimensional co-ordinates can be assigned.

    We'd have our botties spanked for being so silly back when it wasn't morally reprehensible 🙂🙂🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    When linear thinking is locked in sync with circular logic you might expect something of an original idea to randomly occur, a tangential thought if you will - unfortunately not though.

    I hope people notice how they're become obsessed with "silent explosives" because that's a phrase they introduced themselves 🙂🙂🙂

    Whether discrete or in concert, the relevance of individual factors seems to go over their heads 🎠🎠🎠



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    You're not stupid, you know very well that charges are detonated sequentially.

    Buildings tend to make noise when they fall anyway.

    I'm not even trying here, and I think that's what annoys people 🦄🦄🦄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,945 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    trust me, you are trying. Even detonated sequentially explosives still make noise. taking down a skyscraper requires a lot of explosives. that is a lot of noise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    So TV cameras record scenes from faaaaar awaaaaaay Ted ?

    That's right Dougal, there isn't a magic microphone waaay over theeere ?

    God Ted, that means the audio is recorded at the camera's location and not waaay over theeere ?

    You've got it now Dougal, time for a nap I think.

    🦄🎠🦄🎠🦄🎠🦄🎠🦄🎠🦄🎠🦄🎠🦄🎠🦄



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,945 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    come back when you are capable of a serious discussion. about 10 years by my reckoning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Right so, so you think I said they're silent 🙂🙂🙂🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    I had already addressed your acoustic argument.

    Try not to be presumptuous, it's quite stupid 👍👍👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    No sense of fun whatsoever, I'd hate to be like that 🙂🙂🙂

    Strict upbringing maybe or over-reliance on the accepted "scheme of things" ???

    It's ok for them to attempt to ridicule me but they don't seem to appreciate a reciprocal action at all 🤡🤡🤡



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,945 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    how far away do you think you have to be before you can't hear enough explosions to bring down a building?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    If you want to talk about human hearing, I suggest looking for clips of New York Fire Department personnel describing the sound on the day.

    I was merely addressing the issue of TV recording. Let me ask you, how close do you think the TV crews were allowed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    "I'm serious, no I'm joking, or am I? haha can't take a joke, it was an inside job, just joking, okay prove it to me! emojis"

    On the plus side, one of the more coherent conspiracy theorists I've seen in here in awhile



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Wrong thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,853 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,029 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Wrong thread



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