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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The USSR tried to sideline the orthodox church but never managed to fully rid them from public life. Not for lack of trying though. When the Great Patriotic War came about Stalin relied on the support of the church and they've kept their position since. The people themselves remained very religious the entire time, increasingly so as you left the major cities and moved out into the villages scattered all over the place.



  • Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kharkov under massed rocket fire. Videos of residential areas being hit indiscrimately. Videos of dead and dying people on the streets, scattered food and water about them.

    The government need to expel all russian diplomats now, and start cancelling visas of russian citizens immediately



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Reports the Wagner mercenaries are in country ready for the order to take out the president, the Klitschko brothers etc. Talks are nothing, just a sham on putins instruction....



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I do wonder what country you live in or the selective viewpoint that informs things, but present day Ireland is significantly less religous than present day Russia. The Orthodox church is growing in Russia and has been for decades, over the same period in Ireland the Catholic church's influence and attendence has fallen off a very high cliff.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 32,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I suspect they care about their own.

    It is called Mutually Assured Destruction for a reason.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    But what do they care about then? What greater good would be served by unleashing hell on the world?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    Just seen a map of where Russian forces are in Ukraine. It's not looking good and looks like it won't be long before the entire Country is under Russian control. It looks like the West's coverage isn't exactly accurate. This map is from RTE/Institute for Study of War.




  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If they've nothing to lose but have the opportunity to destroy those who they believe have wrecked Russia (Nato/EU), I don't see why not.

    They're clearly psychopaths, too.

    And yes, maybe they are mad enough to sacrifice their own families to achieve "the greater good", in their eyes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Most wars prior to 1914 ended in a compromise peace. Eventually all sides could agree to something, stop fighting and then the sanctions would be unwound. My guess is Russia will get to hold onto some Eastern regions but not Kiev (if they can even take it)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,544 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Russia and Ukraine between them produce more grain than the US and EU combined and most is exported east and south to Asia and Africa, add to that the sanctions, drought in most of north Africa, and Russia and China banning fertilizers exports means a huge shortfall.

    China will be fine as they'll get their share, but there's going to be problems elsewhere. One of the big drivers for the Arab spring was grain shortages.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Thanks to whoever posted that triggernometry interview. 2 minutes in and he captured something that I was thinking about. In the west all we value is living standards and a good quality of life where we can live out our dreams and pursue our interests. This is a noble goal and a fine and fair one to have as a society. However, it's not the only one and it doesn't come without its drawbacks. We are trying to understand the mindset of a once great empire who now plays second fiddle to other powers. There's no real reason for them to just stay in their lane if so much of their national consciousness centres around what they lost and their destiny to be a world leader. Brexit is a good example of this from a western pov where we try to understand a decision based around GDP and not off the idea of greatness and feelings of nostalgia of a better time when their country was powerful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭greenpilot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Kharkiv is an almost entirely Russian-speaking city with a very large ethnic Russian population. Some "de-Nazification" and protecting of Russian speakers rights going on there. The videos are appalling, indiscriminate bombing.

    Anyone who is offering up a defence of, or an equivocation for Putin is going to look like an absolute scumbag after this war is over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Good.

    "Van with captions "People, wake up!" "This is war" "Putin is a scum!" crashed into the fence at Puhkinskaya square in Moscow and caught fire"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭gw80


    At first I thought that severe sanctions were the way to go, but I am just thinking now that maybe it won't have the effect on the ordinary Russian that we think it will have, they will start to see the west as making life harder for them and it could start to galvanise people against the west even some who were sympathetic to the Ukraine,

    After all they cannot really do anything about it unless they protest in huge numbers and even then it's not guaranteed to have any effect,



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    We'll take some economic pain in the EU, but we'll all live. This needs to be faced down full-on by our institutions and we need the citizens of Europe on board with it. Beyond a few sad act apologists, I believe the vast majority of Europeans know it has to be.



  • Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You are casually dismissing the prospect of nuclear war, when it's staring everyone in the face; and yes, that doesn't mean "we'll all live". Far from it.

    In fact, I'd go as far as saying it may well happen within the next few days (weeks at most).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭thomil


    While Kharkiv is definitely seeing indiscriminate and, I believe, punitive shelling and bombardment, this could also be an indication that Russia may be running low on guided weapons. If the leaks coming out of Russia are to be believed, stocks of these were quite low to begin with.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I'm not disputing that Putin himself might have this mindset but it defies common sense that many/most of his military leadership would too. Obliterating Western Europe and the USA is only a 'greater good' to a madman if Russia gets obliterated in the process.

    Up to now the generals have been 'just following orders'. The question remains as to what they would do if given insane orders that would likely lead to their deaths and those of their loved ones.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Nothing is off the table it looks like. I still in all honestly don't think it'll come to it, but I'm not dismissing it out of hand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Translated it to English, jesus christ, the "glory to the motherland" stuff in there is off the scale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 521 ✭✭✭DontHitTheDitch


    How much of Russia’s capital is gold reserve?

    Let’s say you had a shed full of widgets and until now your widgets were worth €100 each. Now, most of your customers say they are no longer buying widgets. Are your widgets still ‘worth’ €100 each? So you go for a loan and you tell the bank manager, look I’m good, I have thousands of widgets worth €100 each, I just have no customers.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm just praying that Ukraine will either survive or will re-emerge as a country if it falls. I'm so upset watching this happen and I can't look away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,049 ✭✭✭Mecanudo


    India at least is still flying it's airplanes over Russian air space.

    They've haven't condemned Putins invasion of Ukraine

    A lot of Indian twitter chat also seems to be very pro Russian with various accusations of racism concerning Indian students etc allegedly being refused access to neighbouring countries. Oddly enough Ukraine itself seems to be getting the blame regardless of the fact that neighbouring countries providing asylum to Ukrainian nationals are reported to be checking papers. And with that foreign nationals won't be automatically accepted without the necessary paperwork. But sure racism 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    I'll happily pay more for diesel and what not, if putin fcuks off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,303 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Wow, Switzerland adopting full EU sanctions against Russia. You really know you are bad guy when Sweden is sending anti-tank missiles against you and the Swiss are punishing you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Addmagnet


    "Did someone in the old European capitals, in Paris and Berlin, seriously believe that Moscow would give up Kyiv? That the Russians will forever be a divided people? And at the same time when Europe is uniting, when the German and French elites are trying to seize control of European integration from the Anglo-Saxons and assemble a united Europe? Forgetting that the unification of Europe became possible only thanks to the unification of Germany, which took place according to the good Russian (albeit not very smart) will. To swipe after that also on Russian lands is not even the height of ingratitude, but of geopolitical stupidity. The West as a whole, and even more so Europe in particular, did not have the strength to keep Ukraine in its sphere of influence, and even more so to take Ukraine for itself. In order not to understand this, one had to be just geopolitical fools."

    😕



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I haven't had a mortgage for some time and won't be applying for any.



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