Random EV thoughts.....

If a Cybertruck is a bit too conservative and narrow for you, how about an electric Batmobile?

Its light on the specs, other than topping out at 65mph and weighing 1,300lbs with a price of $35,000

Bet anything its chademo.

Agree and this is now happening in Ireland with a significant increase in demand for new EVs but it will be some time yet where the supply of EVs will in any way match the numbers required o enable the majority of people to drive EVs.

Also agree we are laggards in the EV scene but that's a reality and cant be sorted by flicking a switch

Absolutely, BEVs are a small minority of sales for Hyundai, VAG etc and all the big automakers seem to be keen to transition as slowly as possible to extract as much profit from ICE as possible.

I'll got a step lower, Type 3c, only works in France 🤣

Is it just me or does this look like someone crossed a delorean with a bus?

222kwh ,imagine the weight of that

I currently have a 181 Peugeot 2008 Active 1.6 Blue HDI 75 4DR and am thinking of trading it in for an EV.

My weekly driving is roughly 300km. Budget is mid Euro 30,000. Is it worth changing to an EV, if so what one, or sticking with current car? Going higher than this price is not a financial option.

What is your daily commute round trip in km? What is your typical weekend long trip round trip in km? Something like an ioniq 28kWh will cost 20,000 euro for a 3 year old car, it will do a guaranteed 130km per day with only home charging, typically 130km and in summer 170km+. If you have the budget or finance something with a 60+kWh battery will get you 300+km reliably. You may save 1000+ euro per year by going EV. Now may be the right time, particularly if you are a 2 car household and you can use the non EV for longer trips. Public chargers are often busy, blocked and broken, so you should buy an EV where you can home charge and have the range to avoid public charging regularly.

Thanks very much @zg3409 . Daily would be around 40km (16 each way to and from work plus a bit more), weekend about the same could go up to 200km a day the very odd time (less than 10 a year). I'm based in Sligo so would have to travel a fair bit to another town. We are a 2 car household and other is diesel so would be grand for longer trips. We are a bit dubious of buying used because we are unsure of battery life, and don't want to find out in 2 or 3 years that we got a bad one.

Thanks @the_amazing_raisin, there are 3 options for a new in Sligo, 2008e, Kona and Leaf. I drove the Kona yesterday and loved it, it was first EV I drove. I will look at the e2008.

I liked the idea of the 40Kw Leaf with 0% until I read some the lambasting it received on threads here with it being old model in new clothing etc..

Edit: Have driveway so can install charger.

There's a few strong opinions either way regarding the Leaf. It is true that it's pretty old technology and the main issue is that it uses an older connector (Chademo) for fast charging, and there aren't that many new fast chargers with Chademo being installed. So future value is probably more of a risk

However, it's kinda hard to find a better finance deal out there for an EV at the moment. e-208 is probably closest in price, and is a better EV on specs, but is a smaller car

And the Leaf is pretty reliable, there's a few horror stories but in general most owners (including me) haven't had any real issues to speak of

most of the leaf begrudgers here are able to afford cars the more generous electric cars.... not the entry line such as the leaf zoe e2008 etc. Another point they whine on that it is old tech, which is true but been tried&tested along with being able to get the car (unlike the supply issues with the newer models) with also having it on 0% finance adds to the advantages. They also get their panties in a twist that it still comes with a Chademo for fast charging, as some leaf's may use the 150 ecars stations where the other 50 station was taken (with chademo you would never draw this under current standard).

if someone told me a leaf 40kwh can do 300km on eco.... i need to see proof in a real world scenario. Summer range can be up to 250km (with conservative driving), and winter down to 200km.

You need to think about your current usage and calculate your daily/weekly distance along with the possible long journeys. Can you charge at work? can you charge at home? what charge points are along my regular route? can i charge while shopping? where is there free juice? some of the questions you should ask. For me 95% of the year, the charge that i have at the start of the day gets me through day no issues and even gets me 2/3 days without needing to charge. Long journeys, this does require some planning and ensuring stations are available with backups in case full, as said in my case these journeys are rare and have no issue if it takes a little longer.

if you think fast charge is something you would regularly need, then perhaps a car with ccs would be better suited. It does charge faster and plus you can join the party and sigh/rage when you see a leaf in a 150 station :)

I genuinely believe a Leaf now is a fairly shrewd investment for the simple reason that at all except 1 eCars sites with more than 1 charger, CHAdeMO has a 50% foothold at those sites, so at sites like Kilcullen, Kells, Park Ri etc... there could be 3-4-5 CCS cars waiting for a charge from 2 plugs, but there'll always be a space available for a CHAdeMO car.

So there's about 15 eCars sites ('Hubs' LoL), where there is a CHAdeMO plug that will always be available only to CHAdeMO cars

CCS cars now outnumber CHAdeMO cars (Leaf's) by about 6-7/1, so having a 50/50 split at all eCars multi-unit sites (except Mayfield), makes getting a Leaf a good idea if you plan on using these sites a lot. This argument however falls flat when the likes of Ionity install more real hubs, and if Tesla do open up their CCS network. eCars will eventually get left behind, but they show no signs of weaning themselves off installing CHAdeMO for the time being.