Random EV thoughts.....

innrain

Have you seen that the newly proposed Circle K units come with the dual CCS/CHAeMO units like in Norway? I know it is a first hub in planning but who knows what it may follow.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118727204#Comment_118727204

Those Delta units seem to be getting pretty popular, I like how extendable they are, up to 4 cars can charge at once from the 350kW units I believe

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118727917#Comment_118727917

eCars be like: But can we stick 2 AC sockets on it though?

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118728149#Comment_118728149

And drop the DC side by 22kW even when the AC is pulling 3kW 🤣

cannco253

taken from the IEVOA facebook page, can't post the actual link for some reason.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/IEVOA/

NMD EV Charging Stations

We are delighted to have installed the very first charge arm in Ireland today.

eagerv

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118725915#Comment_118725915

Don't listen to a sales person bullsh1tting about getting more range from Eco mode. There is no magic extra range available. It's all down to the way you drive, heat requirements etc. Eco mode normally only changes throttle response and A/C level.

NIMAN

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118728925#Comment_118728925

So there are planted in someone's garden? Wonder what incentive the homeowner would get for that?

Also, despite the fact that they are going out and over the pavement, I can still see this setup being rife for compo claims from people.

Busman Paddy Lasty

Can see a lot of neighbours complaining about the visual impact.

There was an image of an Outlander with a similar set up posted somewhere and across the street there are no houses. Perfect spot for a row of public charging pillars and you don't need your 'own spot' of a public road also.

NIMAN

Whatever happened the idea of chargers via lamp-posts?

Did it ever happen?

T-Bird

Yeah I had experience of this salesman before and he is both full of bs and himself. He talks so much crap he can't remember half the time. They all seem to be driving the very same car you are trying to buy as well ..

YFlyer

Notice the neighbour recharge his taxi during the day time. We all got the smart meters in last year. Can you still get night rates via these meters?

markpb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118729542#Comment_118729542

Dun Laoghaire Rathdown have fitted a few of them over the years, generally one or two at a time but they fitted about ten of them on a street in Sandyford last year, about 1/3 of the parking spaces on that street. The entire lamp post was replaced in all cases so it’s probably not as cheap or quick as people had hoped.

cannco253

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/irish-electrical-vehicle-supports-benefit-the-wealthy-study-finds-1.4817841

breeno

Hi all.

Considering an ev as day to day it would suit us with a short commute circa 6km each way plus a bit of evening stuff dropping kids here and there and shopping and gym etc. That bit feels prime for an EV.

We do spend a bit of time in Clare (we're Dubs!) so every month or two we'd be down there. A long range EV these days should easily sort us for getting down there (220km approx) and around etc but I'd be worried about getting a charge down there as I've read that a 3 pin plug charger wouldn't give a full charge overnight? I'm wary of having to rely on public chargers but don't have the option of adding a full charger to our house there.

Just wondering if others have had similar issues and how they managed it etc? I might be overthinking it!

zg3409

I would be worried attempting regular 200km trips in a 40kWh leaf. You may not get there in winter at high speed, If you are very light footed and want to risk getting near zero fine, but I would not call that fun. Don't trust sales people. There job is to lie and close sales.

Ideally you need a 60+kWh battery car giving 300km worst case range for reliable 200km trips, that allows extra for trips to shops, diversions, delays, sudden trips in the evening etc. With that sort of range Dublin non stop from Sligo is possible, but beware on return trip it may require a 1 hour recharge stop on way back.

The Kona has a tiny boot and small back seats. It is also very plasticy. The Niro from kia is similar but bigger worth considering. They seem to be in stock for sale too.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118729846#Comment_118729846

So the 3 pin adaptor should give around 2kW into the battery. Multiply this by the number of hours you're plugged in to get how much charge you'll add to the battery

Say you plugged in for 12 hours, 2*12=24kWh into the battery, probably enough for 100-125km of range

That won't get you from Clare back to Dublin, so you'll need a quick charge on the way home. But having that extra range gives you a lot of options around which charger to use, if one is in use you'll probably have enough to move on to another one

It also shortens the time taken at the charger, you'll probably only need a 15-20 mins stop on the way

Of course if you're staying longer then you can add more charge, if you stayed 2 night then you'd probably have a full battery when going home

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118729846#Comment_118729846

If budget allowed, a Tesla Model 3 RWD would be a great EV for the trips to Clare as you have the Birdhill SuperCharger so you'd never need to concern yourself about finding a charger, or having to queue at one....

SomeGuyCalledMi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118729811#Comment_118729811

Electric cars are expensive. I don't think a study was needed to tell us that.

Their conclusion... “Only transforming how we travel can reduce transport inequalities. Therefore, it is advisable to increase the support for sustainable and inclusive mobility strategies, such as shifting to walking, cycling and affordable public transport, reducing the demand for travel through compact development and enhancing rural accessibility as envisioned in the governmental plans.”

So do they still want to ban the sale of fossil cars by 2030 and take away all EV related grants? In an ideal world its fair enough I suppose. But people don't seem to want cycling and walking infrastructure if it takes away space for their cars.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118729811#Comment_118729811

Yeah I don't see how this is a surprise to anyone, EV grants in Ireland are targeted towards more expensive vehicles, and the charger grant is only available to houses with driveways

Something that maybe the Greens could try fixing if they'd manage to put together a single bit of policy at any points 🙄

Every new non-EV bought in 2022 will lead to second hand market having one less EV in years to come. People who complain about rich and their EVs are the same people who will be economically ripped off in 2027 when there are no sufficient numbers of used EVs in second hand market.

breeno

Thanks for the thoughts re the Clare trips folks!

The Tesla is outside our budget unfortunately but plenty to ponder. I'd be worried about charger angst when on what's supposed to be a relaxing trip😂 I'm sure I'd get used to it though.

Is there a school of thought that charger queues are inevitably going to become more of an issue as more and more people dive into EVs in the coming years?

I'm not in a huge rush to change so maybe another year or two might see some new tech delivering further range at a reasonable price point.

Manion

Can't speak for all EVs but it's pretty standard on either the charging apps or the EV Navi to see if a station has free charging ports or not. The issue that can often happen is someone blocking a charger. So you'll get a good idea if there is already someone there.

AndyBoBandy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118730655#Comment_118730655

The worst is that you've been checking every 2 minutes for 20 minutes before arriving at the charger, and then literally as you're pulling in to the location, you see another car just parked up and about to start a charge...

innrain

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118730655#Comment_118730655

ecars app/website is broken since November-ish. the color marker on the map means nothing now. You have to dig into the charger and check.

Liam2021

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118729846#Comment_118729846

Yes I do this trip Meath to Clare 250km twice a month in an id4. never used a public charger only the granny cable when I get there. Usually I will have 40% charge after the trip. I plug in the granny cable at 5pm and it will be charged to 80% the next day at 12 noon. This will be a little different during winter months but never had an issue yet getting enough charge to come home.

Pm me if you need anything else

the_amazing_raisin

Here's a random thought, say you have solar PV and something like a Zappi to divert excess solar

On a sunny day you might be exporting a lot after charging your car. In that situation, would you start offering charging to other people?

I mean, even when they bring in a FIT it'll be garbage, might as well give it to someone for free and cut out the electricity company

On the other hand, if you were driving around and saw a sign saying "free charging, just plug in" outside someone's house, would you do it?

Incidentally, I'm not giving away free charging, so don't turn up at my house unless you're stuck 😛

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118735819#Comment_118735819

Would never work.

Excess occurs over the course of the full day. It’s hit and miss with cloud coverage and house load.

And the excess may only be 10 kWh over the whole day. That’s like 10% in my car. Add in the hassle now of moving my car for a stranger, having them there all day and they only gain a couple of %!

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118735934#Comment_118735934

Yeah fair point. The thought arose because there's 3 PHEVs owned by the neighbours that never get charged.

I was thinking when I get solar I'd be tempted to get an extra long lead and plug them in on sunny days just to save some petrol fumes from going into the atmosphere

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118736255#Comment_118736255

That could work using the granny cable.

😁

NIMAN

Why would people buy phev but never plug them in?

They should just have bought the ice version of the same vehicle.