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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Ah man. Obviously haven't had time to listen to that but listened to the first few seconds of his anti-vax video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKF8eI9QbIA how the West is going to follow New Zealand and Australia into totalitarianism. And that the US will crush any dissent within it's own borders using drones and annihilate them and everything they have



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    What exactly is he meant to be controlling?!?

    The US has a choice....they aren't even on the same continent...once again the be clear the country invaded isn't in NATO...the rest of Europe haven't provided any soldiers either in case you missed that...

    I would say the US have provided more than their fair share of military and financial aid versus other countries so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1497537193346220038.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1497537193346220038.html

    This may have been posted already , and there's obviously a fair bit of spin in it ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭combat14


    serious news regarding swift and russian central bank assets ... if this is correct there could be chaos in russia as people try to get their money from banks as rouble plunges early next week...:


    this is rapidly turning into an economic war....


    Russia has become a “global economic and financial pariah”, a senior US administration official told the Guardian’s diplomatic editor Julian Borger.

    Speaking after western allies announced new financial measures against Russia, including the removal of some Russian banks from the Swift global payments network, the official said the measures were designed to target the Kremlin and individuals tied to the Russian government.



    They said that all 10 of Russia’s largest financial institutions had now been subjected to sanctions – “holding nearly 80% of the Russian banking sector’s total assets”.



    Russia has been reported to have $630bn in financial reserves stored abroad, in gold and cash, but the new sanctions would render that fund useless, the official said.


    “You heard about fortress Russia, the war chest of $630bn of foreign reserves,” they said.

    “It’s impressive, but it’s only impressive if Russia can use those reserves. And that means Russia has to be able to sell those reserves and buy rubles to support its currency. And so what we’re committing to do here is to disarm the central bank. And the way we can do that, for example, is by banning US, EU UK, persons from selling rubles to the Central Bank of Russia. That means very simply, the Russian Central Bank can’t support the ruble, full stop, and that means our sanctions will have much greater force.”

    The US official said the list of Russia banks to be removed from Swift will ultimately be decided by the EU, but said the US would “work very closely” with European countries “to finalize that list”.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,003 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Because they aren't as good at playing poker as Putin is.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Controlling whats going on in his own borders and whats happening in Europe.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Looks like British/Swedish NLAWs and US Javelins are doing their job well




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭wingnut32




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,973 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Hitler's generals first fed him self-defeating plans to invade France, deliberately. I have no idea how the Russian structure is, but perhaps the will isn't fully there with the generals in this situation. Plus any hardline leader will typically be surrounded by sycophants and yes-men, which ironically is often their biggest weak-spot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,885 ✭✭✭wandererz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Even allowing for spin, there are probably large elements of truth in it. General consensus tonight seems to be that the invasion is going badly for Putin militarily and that he has taken on way more than he can chew.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    What is he not controlling in his own borders?...is this a different topic you are on again?

    Why should they be seen as having to "control" what is happening in Europe in a non NATO country? Team America World police isn't a documentary.

    They have provided more than their fair share of military and financial aid...no other country has stepped in with soldiers why would the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Would be nice, but that Nexta TV hasn't really had a lot of trustworthy information.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,391 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    This this conflict is also showing the changing face of war. Seems to be a real use of the ordinary soldier with a Jav or Stinger, etc. Tanks seem to be not very effective at all or just I'm only seeing a very limited footage from one side of a conflict. Which is also odd....


    Russia does not seem to be showing much of its own footage, like it did in Syria. Odd behaviour.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    One encouraging thing is that even though there are no NATO soldiers(at least none that we know of) in Ukraine there is a shed load of weaponry and munitions going in plus turkey and others ate closing off the black sea. And BTW if I haven't said it before fcuck putin!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Putin just wants a Russian puppet in Ukraine to keep Ukraine close to Russia. This invasion is a result of Zvelnyy basically blocking the pro Russian opposition (Putins friend). With Zvelnyy, he has no authority or influence in Ukraine. And Zvelnyy put sanctions on the chairman of the pro Russian opposition which started this whole troops along the border thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭jmreire


    You have seen the Russian Military in action in winter ( or summer time ) Donald, have you?? Even here, there are reports of vehs running out of fuel, and breaking down. And you can be damn sure that there has been "gelling or waxing" problems too. Well what ever about Napoleon, it was the Russian winter which played a massive part in the German defeat.....and they knew very well how to manage cold weather and vehicles too, even back then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,973 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Ukrainian volunteers

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    True and I would say they are providing a serious amount of intelligence, satellite imaging etc. Germany sending weapons is hugely significant imo



  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All plausible and inclined to agree with the gist, but what about the hundreds of people, not close to Putin, in the Russian miiltary whose job it is to think about logistics? What have they been doing the past few months? I'd love to think that they have sabotaged the mission deliberately. Maybe other posters are right and Russia is a paper tiger, militarily speaking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    You're probably right. Those Russians who are well used to temperatures below -20 in their normal winter probably never came across those problems before. They should have used some fella from Athlone, or wherever you are, as a consultant to explain it to them beforehand.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What are the chances of any of the follow?

    1) Putin is genuinely surprised by the resistance and thought that Russia had much more support in Ukraine itself

    2) No-one is telling the truth and the Russian army is far smaller/less trained than assumed.

    3) Considering the corruption in industry in Russia, what are the chances that they've ripped themselves off and are worse off weapons-wise because of it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Azerbaijan are a muslim country, and they hate Armenia who practically have a military alliance with Russia. So their main ally is Turkey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    1) is very possible

    Related to 2) they don't have half as much modern warfare hardware and tech as they have made out...a lot of the hardware seen has been seriously old and in poor condition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,289 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    1) seems the most likely. By all accounts, Putin thought he could launch a 'shock and awe' attack on Ukraine and topple their government in a few short days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Well, according to Russia it's a limited special operation in the Donbas, so they can't really show them taking over Chernobyl or an airport in Kiev.

    Or maybe they haven't managed to achieve anything worth filming yet. 🙂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,973 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Quotes from a senior US official on turning Russia into a "global economic and financial pariah"

    “We’ll go after their yachts, their luxury apartments their money and their ability to send their kids to fancy colleges in the west. We will also engage other governments, so as to detect and disrupt the movement of ill-gotten gains, and deny these individuals their ability to hide their assets in jurisdictions across the world,”

    “Russia’s government borrowing costs have more than doubled to almost 17%. The S&P credit rating agency has downgraded Russia to junk status. Within 24 hours of our actions the demand for cash in Russia spiked 58 fold, according to reports, and the Russian government scrambled to deplete its own resources to try and shore up its banks and its currency. In short, Russia has become a global economic and financial pariah.”

    “You heard about fortress Russia, the war chest of $630bn of foreign reserves,” they said.

    “It’s impressive, but it’s only impressive if Russia can use those reserves. And that means Russia has to be able to sell those reserves and buy rubles to support its currency. And so what we’re committing to do here is to disarm the central bank. And the way we can do that, for example, is by banning US, EU UK, persons from selling rubles to the Central Bank of Russia. That means very simply, the Russian Central Bank can’t support the ruble, full stop, and that means our sanctions will have much greater force.”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Tippex


    You also need to remember none of what we are seeing is been seen by russians. Moscow has censored internet traffic due to western propaganda.



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