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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,960 ✭✭✭Tippex


    I have read it is hungary holding it up that everyone else are ready to kick them out



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    German support 

    Germany has approved the deliveries of 400 anti-tank rocket launchers to Ukraine in a U-turn from its longstanding policy of banning weapon exports to conflict zones, reports AFP.

    “Given the Russian attack on Ukraine, the government is prepared to release urgently needed material for the defence of Ukraine,” a German government source said in a statement.

    The anti-tank launchers will be delivered through the Netherlands, and will join 14 armoured vehicles already approved for Ukraine.

    Up to 10,000 tonnes of fuel will also be provided.

    Kyiv has for weeks been pleading with Germany to send armaments to help it to face down an invasion by Russia.

    Berlin’s obstinate refusal until now to approve weapon deliveries, and a previous decision to send only 5,000 helmets, had sparked anger and mockery.

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,486 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Yup they will likely fire them into civilian occupied cities which is quite simply a war crime to use this weapon on civilians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    Orban has complied, many hours ago. Keep up or keep head buires in sand. Whichever suits you agenda.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Lemsiper





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭reforger




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    You don't need " ties to Ukraine " to want to help their resistance.!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,117 ✭✭✭✭Discodog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭wingnut32




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,284 ✭✭✭brickster69


    They are Dutch weapons not German. They were purchased from German companies which had clauses in the agreements that they could not be resold or donated. A bit like those Estonian cannons that were not allowed to be sent to Ukraine a few weeks back.

    Pretty standard in arms deals otherwise certain groups could be buying arms and passing it on to anyone. Maybe in this situation it may of been a good idea to waive those rules but here we are.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭ittakestwo


    They want to create money in a corrupt dictatorship and then get to spend it in the free west like they had made it here fairly. Get them out. Freeze or force them to sell their assets in the west. Don't let them have a western lifestyle is the main piont. It is not Ukrainian nationalism people are driving. It is freedom v dictatorship.


    Under putin russia and particularly its wealthy should be completely cut of from the goodies of the west. What good is their wealth when they can only spend it in **** hole countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Does Draghi have a Russia problem? (euobserver.com)

    Germany and Italy have really disgraced themselves both at the outset and during this crisis. The German offer of sending a few helmets to Ukraine before the invasion was farcical and insulting. Draghi is another disgrace of a leader for multiple reasons in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Have Germany sent them to Ukraine?! Or just approved their shipment?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,768 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    You really are showing your colours.

    Conrad roll honor.jpg

    This was a great uncle of mine I never got to meet, because he died at 18.

    Precious Ireland, keep Ireland safe, don't annoy Putin as he might bomb us...geez.

    Confiscate all the assets of all the Russian Oligarchs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭RedCardKid


    Merkel was one of the few world leaders able to speak to Putin in his own language and get the message accross to him. Obama eventually refused to speak to him (stated in his autobiography that Putin only ever lied to him), leaving Merkel and Macron to keep him in check. When Trump came into power the lady had a lot to do as Trump would have walked away from todays problems.

    Why have the Germans been so slow? 3-4 reasons .....

    • approx. €29 billion in exports every year into the Russian economy
    • German economy earns further billions in gas transit fees, gas grid connection points to every boardering country
    • Germanys / mainland Europes dependancies on gas from Europe ... Gazprom deliver approx. two thirds of Europes gas requirement

    Add to that, post WW2 laws in Germany means parliment has to approve weapons exports, politicians have to be very careful and tick all the boxes before making a move. Later this evening you will read Germany are now delivering weapons directly from their own military stock to the Ukraine and not only allowing third parties to deliver German bought weapons ;)

    Current Chancellor Scholz has the headache which he has been dealing with within his own party (SPD) .... former German Chancellor Schröder is a member of Gazproms Supervisory board (close friend of Putin) and it is believed he is to be announced Chairman of that board. Yesterday Schröder sent out a Tweet calling for the war to end, however, he has not resigned from his position unlike many other Germans over the last few days. That tweet was more or less the signal that the German government were ready to move ....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭thomil


    They're apparently being prepared for shipping as we speak. It'll likely take them 1-2 days to get there from what I've seen on Twitter.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭reforger


    By the sounds of it the Swift removal will be limited to specific banks and entities.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The French have impounded a Russian bound ship



    and Orban is on board as he tells the BBC his country will fully support all EU sanctions against Russia. So close to an election there is no win for him in opposing them.

    Meanwhile in Russia a total of nearly 3,000, so far, have been arrested for protesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I wonder what happened the guy who came up with that plan..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire





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  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Question, do you favour global sanctions that hit oligarchs? They're very much so in Putin's circle and their wealth is largely due to him. And it's not a matter of supporting Ukrainian Nationalism, it's supporting a nation against the loss of its sovereignty. Short of war, this is pretty much the kind of approach necessary to hit Putin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭TracyMartell




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Sorry but it doesn't follow that *anything* that weakens any Russian person is in Ireland's interest. Or that refusing to do that is cowardly.

    Since when do we seize assets of citizens of foreign countries we aren't at war with? We're debating stealing money from individual Russian businessemen. That goes too far and I don't like it, I think it's squalid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭omerin


    Where is the get out for Putin? I don't think there is one, which is scary when you consider their military strategy is, escalate to deescalate, which means the use of nukes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,486 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    These russian Oligarchs along with Putin have been pillaging russia for decades. All their their riches are stolen from the russian people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Germany are thinking of gas and nordstream 2, which they will want to progress as soon as they can get away with it. Any German support of Ukraine is for PR reasons only. Countries should be judged on their initial responses as that is who they truly are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,932 ✭✭✭thomil


    More news out of Germany. According to local TV reports (N-TV Nachrichten, a German-language news station), Germany has authorised the transfer of German-built howitzers from Estonia.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭growleaves


    So why were basically invited to treat London as their home? And to wash their stolen money through the City of London and English football clubs?

    I would just send them on their way personally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,099 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Russian forces getting heavier artillary and tanks in to position around Kiev. Question is will they go for full on assault tonight or have they more buildup to do?

    They already have soldiers within a couple of kms of the govt quarter.

    Like all criminals most of the dirty work is done at night.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    after his speech last week if he nukes Ukraine, he is nuking his homeland Russia

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



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