The Joe Rogan Experience Podcasts

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/11/eu-investigates-reports-of-menstrual-disorders-after-mrna-covid-shots.html

i got Steve Koonin's book 'unsettled' some time ago and glad to see him on JR. In contrast to some of his guests his data seems solid. The most interesting things he said that he was mostly ignored about the science part by fellow scientists and there was a group of organizations collectively engaged in suppressing anything hinting at doubt about the data. It included the BBC, the US government and certain newspapers. Sounds like a conspiracy. The same could be said about Covid science. Anyway, sad to see Bill Maher rubbishing the book as well, someone usually quite skeptical..

I remember Michael Shermer being lambasted by both Hancock and JR about daring to critique their hypothesis with Carlson staying mainly quiet. Unfair to Shermer i thought who made valid points. Anyway, it was entertaining..

And here is a link to the Skeptic article Shermer wrote after the podcast:

https://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/debating-science-lost-civilizations-shermer-experience-on-joe-rogan-961/

Well yes, the burden of proof is on Carlson. One of the points Shermer was making was that there needs to be continual proof from multiple sources and that doesnt seem to be the case. Stories and conjecture are simply not enough. Shermer does come across as an irrirating little party pooper at times but he actually knows what he is talking about having had conversations w interesting people for years diving deep into various science subjects unlike JR who is everyman's pub conversationalist albeit it an entertaining one.

Here's a link to one of Shermer's recent guests:

otherwise you can just listen to the podcast by going to Episode Archive..

For those interested in science. Usually connected to a recently published book ...

I don't disagree with anything you've dmsaid there. I also listen to Shermer's podcasts the odd time and more often than not really enjoy them. For whatever reason he seemed to get fairly annoyed by this particular topic. To the point where he was more aggressive than he would normally be.

I don't know, 2 and a half hours is a lot of time but it's an interesting topic. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark when it comes to how pharmaceutical and healthcare industries operates in the US. One of the things that makes me thankful to not live there. It's definitely a topic that needs to be aired more in the States.

Alex Gibney's HBO documentary The Crime of the Century is a must watch to show the scummy practices of the pharmaceutical industry and the government's hands off regulation and how they contributed to the opiate crisis. Also the Drug Short episode of the Dirty Money series on Netflix which deals with Valeant and their purchasing of orphan drugs to the prices up wildly as a way maximising profits is truly disgusting.

Tbf, I do think these type of topics are handled better in a thoroughly researched and concise documentary rather than a two and a half hour conversation that can be prone to tangental detours.

Ha, yeah. Even you posting that is enough to put me off. I listened to some of his podcasts several years before ago I started to find them tedious and that about sums them up for me.

The Netflix series was brilliant. I watch the documentary film by the power lifter who was a guest on Rogan a few times. It was crazy how easily they prescribed pills over there. People drinking a gallon of coffee a day getting prescribed drugs for restless leg syndrome.

Just had a looksee there and it's by the same guy called Chris Bell and it's called Prescription Thug$. Well worth a watch as he battled with addition to Prescription drugs for long periods himself.

Couple of things here though. He didn't mention the man made virus, Osterholm did and Joe corrected him several times to say a possible lab leak.

He was right to question some of the things being said because they don't stack up with data from anywhere else in the world. Osterholm made some big claims around omicron being more danger in general and especially to children. That's not backed up anywhere I'm afraid.

I also think vaccine mandates are particularly egregious considering these vaccines do not stop you catching or spreading covid. They do offer great protection to the individual but if they don't want to take it that's on them. There is very little logic in mandating these particular vaccines.

Myocarditis is well worth talking about. These vaccines are not 100% safe but it's good to hear a mainstream podcast discuss the issue and let people know you are way more likely to get it from covid than from the vaccine.

From listening to some of his more recent podcasts there does seem to be more of an effort to push back on any claims made around a "sensitive" topic like covid. I hope this isn't an editorial change he's going to stick with because these conversations just don't have the same flow as before. I really enjoyed Osterholms last appearance but this one was nowhere near as enjoyable and came across as a 2 hours covid infomercial than anything else.

Is it though? We know the incidental rate with omicron can be 30/40/50% of cases admitted "with" COVID. I have no idea if these are covid related or just winter RSVs where the patient just happens to pop on a PCR test.

I'm just asking a question so you can park the conspiracy theory and "MSM" nonsense for a start.

My question was very straightforward and isn't answered in that article. I ask that question because it became quite relevant here in Ireland and elsewhere.