Russia - threadbanned users in OP

For the fanatics: It's possible to criticise both sides of a crisis. Just because you hate country X doesn't mean you have to defend opposing country Y. No need to dredge up ancient or unrelated history. A current administration isn't responsible for something another administration did decades ago. Likewise a modern administration isn't being "hypocritical" criticising a potential invasion just because you can find something negative in their history.

I think it's fair enough people don't take international law seriously, how many times have NATO prosecuted themselves for the obvious slaughter of women and children? NATO hardly if ever even investigate or bring charges against the ruling powers of NATO.

Anytime you hear about the USA killing a large amount civilians you also hear they attempted to cover it up. The USA are people who try and tell us that the slaughter of women and children is justified because a few cavemen tried to shoot coalition forces. The Baghuz strike was one of the largest civilian casualty incidents in anyone's war against the Islamic State, but it has never been publicly acknowledged by the U.S. military.

Stuff like this is why I can't buy into this crap I'm being told by the USA, this stuff happens all the time and they always cover it up, the blatant and obvious murder of over 50 innocent children. If Russia done this I'd be having it shoved down my throat 24 hours a day for weeks while it barely gets a mention in Western media.

The UN are useless,as seen during the shooting down of MH17 and chemical weapons attacks in Syria,

There will never be an independent government agreement over who controls the data and the likes of Russia would have no issues shooting down a drone to allow them to carry out an attack,

UKRAINE has repeatedly gone to the UN and asked for help including deploying UN peacekeepers to the occupied separatists Russia says no and they will never allow UN to deploy peacekeepers in Ukraine,

I don’t see the world standing by if Putin will try the above because if Ukraine today, where next his aggressive flight of fancy…? Has to be a line in the sand.

It's different though. It's not that it fails, international law is merely a way for the larger nations to bring charges against the smaller nations that they don't like. They never ever prosecute themselves and never will.

They just claim it's justified or they cover it up and move on, no investigation or prosecutions needed.

That's a bit disingenuous, as has been pointed out to you and others several times. The United States (and the UK) are currently part financing and giving political cover to a contiuing brutal assault on civilians in Sanna by the Saudi and UAE war machine...not 50 years ago, not 20 years ago but days ago...not Clinton, not Bush, not Trump, but Biden....and it is entirely appropriate to raise these points while we sit and listen to nauseating, sychophantic language from Biden, Harris, Johnson and Blinken...

None of this is about 'hate' and countries it's about opposing leaders who play a nefarious role in the globe by threatening neighbours with military intervention or other forms of intervention as Putin is doing with Ukraine or the US has done and is doing in the Middle East and Latin America. These events are dealt with in the media in entirely different ways...have you heard Coveney once call out the US or the UK, no but no shortage of critique of Putin....surely you're not on board with this level of hypocrisy?

Indeed, perhaps Macron is talking to himself but I believe it's Putin...have you heard differently?

How about the last act, where he is determined to go if he does not get his way, and take the World with him????

They previously warned ukraine that's boats leaving their ports would be targeted as the sea of azoz was now a live artillery range