Ghislaine Maxwell trial

I have no idea, it was someone on TV yesterday (British socialite Victoria Hervey) who said Maxwell was as much a victim as some of the other girls. I was just making the point that whatever way a person could say she's a victim is undermined by the length and severity of her own actions over decades.

I was somewhat surprised that the defense had not brought up claims that Maxwell herself was a victim of coercive control etc to appeal to emotions. It’s a tactic used frequently by female defendants. There must have been a good reason why the defense didn’t go down that route.

Huge excitement about the civil case against Andy but, as I predicted, no further arrests. All those guilty men but Ghislaine Maxwell is the only one who will serve time, probably the rest of her natural.

No plea deal with the prosecution. That would only work if the prosecution wanted to prosecute.

Andy is destroyed but that is a civil matter.

The main player? She was just an accomplice to Epstein and his high-rolling buddies. Everyone else here thought she would spill the beans on the big names who abused these girls. I always believed she wouldn’t because the prosecutors were not interested in prosecuting the big fish. That’s how it seems to be playing out. Do you know something we don’t?

So you think she was central to Epstein’s network of abuse but she doesn’t have any evidence at all to offer against those she assisted to abuse young girls. She wouldn’t even be able to corroborate any girl who came forward and said “I was raped by Mr. Big Shot”?

How convenient for those abusers. And for the prosecutors who want to shut this down.

I don't think she was central, it was proved without doubt she was. Again it's not my opinion.

Do I really need to explain you the possible pit falls of putting a convicted sex trafficker in the box for the prosecution?

Nope, like I already tried to explain to you the person with the lesser criminal culpability normally gets the contingent plea agreement.

You don't give the mob moss a deal to get the accountant. It would be pretty outrageous.

As for her conviction in this case, that came about because of the testimony of multiple victims and the defenses inability to discredit their testimonies.

If Ms. Maxwell were to take the stand, Lionel Hutz would have a field day which would have the net effect of distracting from the victims actual testimonies and sully the minds of the jurors.

She would just be a massive target that the defense team would aim everything at.

As for potential co conspirators, and witnesses / victims that are willing to testify in what may result in a viable criminal case.

I'm not aware of any. Are you?

Yip, that exactly how I feel and what I saying.

Absolute fúcking waste of time. 🙄

Game over - settled with a payment to her charity. I can only imagine the frantic carry-on behind the scenes before this deal was sealed. Too late to save Andrew’s reputation but what a relief for the Firm! And at a crucial moment with Charles preparing to take the throne.

So, as I’ve been saying for months, none of the men who abused these girls will go to jail. Mission accomplished for Maxwell’s prosecutors. And no one here seems to mind.

i said nobody here seems to mind. Various posters said as much previously on this thread and went unchallenged.

Of course the victims mind very much.