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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭corkie


    The HSE's Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) has launched a new Covid-19 data hub to provide the latest figures relating to cases, deaths and outbreaks in Ireland.

    Why now?

    https://epi-covid-19-hpscireland.hub.arcgis.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,268 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    The Explorium in Sandyford is drive through if still available



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,765 ✭✭✭degsie


    The test center in Ballycoolin was really really quiet when both myself and boss went on separate occasions this week. Can't see how this will stay open.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    Can I ask why you need a pcr test considering you've had a positive antigen test?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,799 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The teachers unions are letting their members down yet again trying to pressure NPHET over masks.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,928 ✭✭✭FishOnABike




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    In my older one's class, half of the kids are just not bothering any more and the teachers don't care.

    She told us she "forgot" to put her mask on for the whole day in school yesterday. Clearly nobody said a thing to her.

    I'd say the teachers' unions are way out of step on this one. More than half of teachers have probably had covid at this stage anyway, they don't care anymore.

    They'll likely replace it all with public health advice, but I think it would be important to put protections in place for people who wish to continue to wear masks.

    That is, to make it unlawful for an employer to refuse to allow a mask to be worn unless there's an obvious safety issue, and to make it illegal to refuse access to a shop/pub/etc if someone is wearing a mask. Niche concerns, but there are enough weirdos out there taking umbrage at people wearing masks. People should be permitted to continue wearing masks if they feel it is necessary for their own or others' protection.



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its really pathetic to see the amount of rubbish in the media from unions and experts begging to keep masks and restrictions.

    It's actually sickening how many people have used this pandemic for their own self gain.

    Some people would do anything to avoid the return of normality.


    While I understand that society is not perfect, we can't keep using a pandemic as an excuse to push whatever the agenda is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭brianc27


    Just incase my work were to ask for proof, I don't think they would but best to have it on the off chance they do, otherwise I wouldn't bother



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Everyone's over on the weather forum arguing whether schools should or shouldn't be open tomorrow and whether its really a red warning or an orange plus!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Tony Holohan indicating NPHET to be stood down after today’s meeting. Masks to remain only in healthcare settings.

    It’s finally done and dusted now. After 2 years I think it’s time to unsubscribe to the threads in this forum for once and for all.



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Great news. Hopefully it’s done overnight too. No reason it can’t

    Can’t wait for the “but they’re not following the sCiEnCe” crowd who’ve suddenly gone from worshipping the advice to now railing against it.



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Any word on the other school measures I wonder? Obvs distancing and masks the big ones gone now - hopefully the magic pods and ban on mixing to be quietly dropped too?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,451 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    As we're nearing the complete end of this saga, many are wondering, did Ireland over react to covid?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms


    Myself and the missus have a bottle of champagne saved for when RTE eventually go to the wall but tonight may be the night it gets popped!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Same as before, most likely they will be scrapped from midnight tomorrow or Sunday night.

    Now it's been said, people will just stop wearing masks and you create this vacuum of tension while it's still mandatory but it has been advised to drop it. So chances are the government will meet early tomorrow and make an early statement in order to remove any ambiguity.

    Secondary schools are on a week break next week anyway. Primary schools may be advised to wait till after they come back. Seems redundant though. They can be dropped immediately.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I hope all the measures and moves brought in during covid are recorded somewhere so we can look back in years to come.

    That 9 euro meal for example.

    I know there's a Wikipedia page but don't think it has all the little details.

    Hard to believe two years of our lives have been spent with covid!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The recommendation to government is appearently from the 28th, to let the current SI lapse. Soon see what they do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭lee_baby_simms




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,387 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    NPHET winding down when there's no longer a NPHE to oversee?


    No, boards told me they'd desperately cling onto power forever and would keep restrictions till the end of the year.


    Tony must be lying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Remember all the jokes about essential and non-essential?

    We've never had such blunt bureaucratic control over our lives - with units of statistical models substituting for real actually-existing people.

    I suspect a lot of professionals (ABC1) took to it because they already spend 37-42 hours a week putting gibberish into spreadsheets and performing similar tasks for idiot managers, whether in the public or private sector.

    All the blah-blahing pseduo-science and amateur statistics and the total faith in narrow micro-specialisms, so that we're suddenly in thrall to a sub-sub-discipline of medical science that most people had never even heard of before (epidemiology). "Are you an epidemiologist?" "Hold on, this chemist/biologist/physicist/doctor/Nobel Prize winning statistician is NOT an epidemiologist so they have nothing to contribute!" *vomit*



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    This place?

    The €9 meal had to be one of the most misrepresented public health measures of them all.

    Did the Irish Government overreact? With hindsight being 20/20 we can see that some of the measures were more restrictive than they likely needed to be. You could probably point to the end of last summer where restrictions could've been unwound further than they were - but were largely invisible anyway. In the end though, that really wouldn't have changed things for long as the Omicron unknown was surfacing.

    In the round though, the Irish Government did a pretty good job at containing the virus and preventing a limited capacity healthcare system from becoming overrun - in the context of a threat that had many unknowns about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Spudman_20000


    Yeah, only ran up 40 billion of debt and affected the mental and physical well-being of thousands of people. Champagne all round lads.



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    We never actually contained the virus though as such a thing was not possible. Peaks occurred in all countries regardless of restrictions. And peaks fizzled out with or without restrictions.

    When cases were low we credited lockdowns. When we had thousands of cases we blamed lack of adherence.

    The harsh reality is that they came at a huge cost and really didn't help much.

    Now we pay the price with record levels of debt, inflation and a housing crisis that got a whole lot worse thanks to being the only country to close construction for months on end in 2021.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,831 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Nearly 2 years, its finally over. Like totally over



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Little bit of revisionism there. Construction closed for all but exempted projects on 8th January and reopened for housing on 12 April. So not months on end. 3 months.

    And yes it hit output, but in the context of the housing crisis, 3 months delayed supply was not hugely impactful. By the end of 2021, construction significantly caught up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    I hope the last two years and the response to Covid is examined properly. I fear very little investigative journalism as one thing this shone a light on for me is that impartial media is gone. Agendas and narratives are the new approach with salesman tactics with guest contributors and ‘debates’.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The decision will probably be made on Tuesday unless someone has a rush of blood to the head to move it up.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,840 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    yep its fantastic

    Part of me thinks we may never see something like this again in our lifetimes and proves that lockdowns don't work long term



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