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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭snowcat



    You are better off. We all tested positive. Wife 4 days later than rest of us with no mitigation measures. Very minor symptoms. Glad to be done and dusted. 8 days positive on antigen with no symptoms for 3 of us. Wife had pains and headache for 2 days.

    Antigens are a good idea of your viral load. Found them bang on 100%. The higher your viral load the quicker and darker the T line appears. Also no need to go up to your brain for a sample. Any bit of snot gives a spot on result.

    Also both vaxxed and unvaxxed mates have an exact same antigen positive time of 8-9 days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,047 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    All of the zealots pushing for masks should be made to give up their weekends to go out and pick up the millions of discarded masks littering the country. Perhaps it might finally make them realise that their stupid placebo does not come at zero cost.



  • Posts: 895 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Teaching unions wanting Covid theatre measures to be kept anyway. Reprehensible stuff.

    I’ll be stopping paying my INTO membership from next month. The fact they want every protection measure in place for at least another 2 months is a selfish, self serving view that absolutely doesn’t represent the silent majority of teachers and other education staff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,521 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Is there more or less of them than the discarded bottles and cans that are left lying around? I'll be glad when they're gone but the anti mask zealots like yourself are as bad as the mask zealots that are around.

    We know they work, but omicron has rendered them pointless, be happy about that, you don't need to try and justify 2 years of zealotry on the way out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,654 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    A container from China used to cost 3k transportation, now 20k, a large factor is the amount of containers of masks, oil is gone up, a surge in consumption in the production of masks, ppe etc, and the transportation of it. If they aren't making a considerable contribution they should not be mandatory



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,047 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Whataboutery, otherwise known as the last refuge. Are there more masks than cans littering our streets? I would say yes, you will of course say no, either way it won't be relevant.

    You "know" they work but notably you don't respond to the point made, namely that they are very much not zero cost. You do that because its awkward to accept that the cost might actually outweigh the negligible benefit.

    But then that is a feature of the pandemic response, do it and let the next guy deal with the costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    I see Hong Kong have vowed that they won’t be living with covid. I feel sorry for those people.



  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Delighted for the North. They've put our lot in a very tricky situation now were they surely can't justify a mask mandate while neighbouring countries and people on the same island won't be following the same nonsense.

    MM can keep wearing his in shops if he wants to.



  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The entirety of that subreddit is now 'THINK OF THE CHILDREN'. We can't live normally until they're vaccinated. Risk assessment is out of the window



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,106 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    It's definitely politicised in the US alright. Made all the more bizarre as people have flip flopped their opinions depending on who was President (both sides)

    We can't forget what the media and governments have done the last 2 years either. They have convinced a high % of the population they could die if they catch covid . They done long lasting damage to people



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    I've never seen this thread so quiet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭Terence Rattigan


    They are doing the bidding of Beijing. Very sad to see them grinding Cathay Pacific Airways into the ground. Its majority owned by the Swire Group who are British, hard not to come to the conclusion that its a deliberate tactic to put them out of business, no other airline in the world is in the same pickle, as HKG is their hub



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,521 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Here's a fairly comprehensive study pre-vaccine rollout on the effectiveness of masks at reducing R (there's lots of others):

    An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19 | PNAS

    Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission: Nonmedical masks use materials that obstruct particles of the necessary size; people are most infectious in the initial period postinfection, where it is common to have few or no symptoms (4546141); nonmedical masks have been effective in reducing transmission of respiratory viruses; and places and time periods where mask usage is required or widespread have shown substantially lower community transmission.

    Now, you're question of whether they're worth the cost is interesting, we've seen the countries with lower infection rates and death rates generally have fared better economically than those that didn't, Ireland had some of the harshest lockdowns yet our economy is in rude health compared to others.

    Now, the starting point of this is that the lockdowns and restrictions were an effective way for countries to manage themselves through a pandemic and will be likely to repeat such actions were another pandemic to occur (though favouring restrictions due to medical advances).

    If you oppose any and all restrictions, then none of this will make a difference to your thought except the knowledge that pretty much every functioning country on both sides of the political spectrum followed these measures including the mask wearing. Medical studies support the actions, science support the actions, it doesn't leave a very credible place to go to claim otherwise (but lots of shouting and fist slamming).

    And on the rubbish aspect, are face masks, increasing in any meaningful way the amount of waste produced by a person? Probably not, you'd need to be throwing away a lot of masks to have any substantial effect either in weight or in volume. Are they more visible? Yes, because of where people discard of them, the type who will leave a mask on the street will likely be throwing other rubbish on the street as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    It’s all over for the vast majority. The hardcore few will cling on relevance. Hegarty, the mad one with the long swine flu kids, etc. The likes of them have never been part of something and they liked it. So they’ll cling on for another bit yet.

    But Omicron has ended it. Vaccines, and natural immunity playing a role too but the ultimate credit goes to Mother Nature. And that is not being said enough as those in the limelight provide other reasons for political gain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/long-covid-a-lot-of-people-are-suffering-in-silence-unable-to-return-to-full-capacity-1.4799748

    Physios making a landgrab for "long Covid", the orthodontists must be kicking themselves for not getting in there faster ;-) 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,268 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I am presuming these are hospital / ICU based physios who are looking after patients post ventilation.Long term ventilation would cause a lot of issues . At some stage in January Tony Holohon ( i think it was ) said some patients were in ICU since June



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Of course, there was never any "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" from the open-up crowd during any of this, oh no...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Why does it have to be this "message" and that "crowd"? All a tad extreme really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭brianc27


    Does anyone know what the story is with bringing kids to the test centers, both me and my daughter tested positive on antigens yesterday, she has no symptoms, I have very mild ones, I'm over 40 so gonna get a PCR, it's just me and her isolating together, no one else in the house so I will have to bring her to the test center, I'm presuming there's no issue with that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    If it's a drive through you'll have no problem. If it's a walk in centre, she'll probably have to wait in the car.

    Judging by how quiet they are at the moment, you'll probably be in and out in 5-10 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭brianc27


    She's only 6, won't be leaving her in a car alone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,268 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Bring her with you . Explain she cant be left alone

    i have seen people with buggies in the queue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Offhand, the test centre in Newtown Mount Kennedy was a drive through when we went. Post your location and I'm sure others here could advise which centre to go to. Or I'm sure if you can get through to the HSE they'll tell you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Last time I was in Citywest (which was last year to be fair), they had a drive-through that they were using for people with children and limited mobility. As above, let us know what part of the country you're in and someone with local knowledge might know where has a drive-through.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,042 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Of course it doesn't. Plenty of unnecessary extremism from both crowds throughout ;P



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭brianc27


    I'm in dublin, so can go anywhere in Dublin, had a look at the hse sight were you book tests, doesnt say which ones are drive through or not, Citywest doesn't seem to be in use anymore either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The contract on Citywest ran out and it became a hotel again recently.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,918 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    If you find you have to bring her in, maybe just stick a proper mask on her for the 5 mins.Twist the ear loops so it fits her better.We had to do this at Christmas when getting tests, no other choice either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭brianc27


    Yea will have to just bring her, she has a mask she loves to wear anyway so that won't be a problem



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